They're a chain of small shops similar to NisaThe crisp's people? How is that relevant
Sainsbury’s and Asda in talks to merge
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Sainsbury's is utter rubbish anyway, over priced rubbish at that. Living on a reputation it long since doesn't deserve.
At least Asda is cheap tat.
Morrisons is such a mixed bag it doesn't make sense shopping at for a main shop.
Tesco is the best of the main ones.
With ocado having a good range of speciality products, but expensive. But small shop once a month from them to get the speciality and some deals is good.
Be interesting to see what happens long term. Possibly pre emptive due to Amazon, who survey have a longer plan to really muscle in. So many Asda and Sainsbury stores are extremely close together.
anyone life near wholefoods, have priced dropped significantly since Amazon purchased them? they are amazing but stupidly expensive, none near me though.
At least Asda is cheap tat.
Morrisons is such a mixed bag it doesn't make sense shopping at for a main shop.
Tesco is the best of the main ones.
With ocado having a good range of speciality products, but expensive. But small shop once a month from them to get the speciality and some deals is good.
Be interesting to see what happens long term. Possibly pre emptive due to Amazon, who survey have a longer plan to really muscle in. So many Asda and Sainsbury stores are extremely close together.
anyone life near wholefoods, have priced dropped significantly since Amazon purchased them? they are amazing but stupidly expensive, none near me though.
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I've not found Sainsbury's too bad - the odd thing overpriced and occasionally the customer service could do with a bit of tweaking but overall OK - I've not really noticed any change from how they used to be personally. Morrisons CS I've no complaints with but I find the products bland and often though slightly cheaper say 75-80% of the cost of the equivalent elsewhere only 60-70% of the quality so a bit of a false economy.
Never had any problems at the checkout in ALDI. If you are then you must be doing it wrong.
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IMO Tesco is the worst supermarket. Expensive, but poor quality.
I generally shop in Aldi or Lidl and find them as good, if not better than ASDA, Sainsburys or Morrisons for most things.
Morrisons has the best butchers/fishmongers of the supermarkets however IMO.
I generally shop in Aldi or Lidl and find them as good, if not better than ASDA, Sainsburys or Morrisons for most things.
Morrisons has the best butchers/fishmongers of the supermarkets however IMO.
While surely the competition commission will have misgivings about this merger, surely the rationality of say Asda collapsing completely because it can't compete with Aldi/Lidl or Amazon is worse than having 3 large store providers?
As right now, Amazon is likely to continue it's massive rise and it will most definitely destroy what's left of retailers. I find it really dumb that Asda has literally no metropolitan presence, as it's big-stores-outwith-city function is becoming hopelessly irrelevant.
I ain't walking 3 miles or wasting a fiver for a bus just to get stuff that i can get by walking about 100 feet to one of my local metro stores, for anything more niche... guess what, Amazon sells it and sometimes (because happily i live in one of these areas) they also can deliver some things inside an hour... you know how disgustingly giddy that makes me feel?
Hopefully the Amazon-Go stores will be coming soon (as i imagine the 1hour areas area all destined to include them), then i wont have to look depressed minimum wage lackeys in the face at all while I shop.
As right now, Amazon is likely to continue it's massive rise and it will most definitely destroy what's left of retailers. I find it really dumb that Asda has literally no metropolitan presence, as it's big-stores-outwith-city function is becoming hopelessly irrelevant.
I ain't walking 3 miles or wasting a fiver for a bus just to get stuff that i can get by walking about 100 feet to one of my local metro stores, for anything more niche... guess what, Amazon sells it and sometimes (because happily i live in one of these areas) they also can deliver some things inside an hour... you know how disgustingly giddy that makes me feel?
Hopefully the Amazon-Go stores will be coming soon (as i imagine the 1hour areas area all destined to include them), then i wont have to look depressed minimum wage lackeys in the face at all while I shop.
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I can't see this being good for the consumer, consolidation rarely is. Shareholders yes, Consumer No, Suppliers no.
Take Australia as an example. The food retail market is dominated by 2 players, with 40% made up by several smaller, including Aldi. The 2 dominant players say they both compete but everyone knows they run a pricing cartel, with the result that retail food prices are really high in Australia, to the point it is cheaper to buy Australian made goods overseas! Big profit margins without benefits being passed onto the consumer, or supplier.
(I am writing this in Oz, but sell food in the UK... go figure).
Take Australia as an example. The food retail market is dominated by 2 players, with 40% made up by several smaller, including Aldi. The 2 dominant players say they both compete but everyone knows they run a pricing cartel, with the result that retail food prices are really high in Australia, to the point it is cheaper to buy Australian made goods overseas! Big profit margins without benefits being passed onto the consumer, or supplier.
(I am writing this in Oz, but sell food in the UK... go figure).
While surely the competition commission will have misgivings about this merger, surely the rationality of say Asda collapsing completely because it can't compete with Aldi/Lidl or Amazon is worse than having 3 large store providers?
As right now, Amazon is likely to continue it's massive rise and it will most definitely destroy what's left of retailers. I find it really dumb that Asda has literally no metropolitan presence, as it's big-stores-outwith-city function is becoming hopelessly irrelevant.
I ain't walking 3 miles or wasting a fiver for a bus just to get stuff that i can get by walking about 100 feet to one of my local metro stores, for anything more niche... guess what, Amazon sells it and sometimes (because happily i live in one of these areas) they also can deliver some things inside an hour... you know how disgustingly giddy that makes me feel?
Hopefully the Amazon-Go stores will be coming soon (as i imagine the 1hour areas area all destined to include them), then i wont have to look depressed minimum wage lackeys in the face at all while I shop.
Your experience is the minority I'd say. Most people still drive to the large supermarkets once or twice a week rather than buying local and this usually means on the outskirts of towns rather than in the town centre where land and rates are expensive.
Definitely. The Asda near me at the weekends is a total nightmare, can't even get past the roundabout by it as it's blocked by 500000 people coming and going to Asda. Have had police close entrance to it a couple of times as it was tailing back onto dual carriageway.
Seems sensible. Consolidate ownership of two large sets of retail sites, making it easier to sell to Amazon in five years
Might be anti trust issues though given how large theyvare
Okeydokey.
But for reference a well placed large store pulls in £1-2m a week with a huge catchment area.
Being able to go to a massive store, fill a vehicle with food/consumables and be done with shopping for a decent period isn't a niche thing. It's part of organised life.
Aldi are miles cheaper. Come on think about it, there's a reason they're undergoing a massive expansion programme. 5th largest UK food retailer and may reach parity with Morrisons in the next four years.
The big weekly/monthly grocery shop isn't the norm any more. Hasn't been for years. People are buying a small amount at a time, from the most convenient shop. Food ranges are falling as people are becoming less brand loyal, instead opting for the best value product on the shelf (which, more often than not, is the own brand product). Large stores are seeing increasingly large amounts of floor space being dedicated to clothing, homewares, electricals, and concessions, in order to fill the space left by the shrinking food offering. And even then, for the majority of large stores, takings are down on a decade ago.
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Aldi typically work on a 16% retail margin, the big 4 are on 35% to 40%. Additionally Aldi is a huge Global retailer in its own right, and has at least as much buying power as the big 4. Finally Aldi buys few lines in great volume, they don't offer 13 different Hummus options like Tesco, for example. They offer choice, not variety. A lean retail model that currently works and is competitive against the online retailers. To compete the big 4 need to reduce the range variety, buy in greater depth and reduce their costs, back end and front end.
Aldi typically work on a 16% retail margin, the big 4 are on 35% to 40%. Additionally Aldi is a huge Global retailer in its own right, and has at least as much buying power as the big 4. Finally Aldi buys few lines in great volume, they don't offer 13 different Hummus options like Tesco, for example. They offer choice, not variety. A lean retail model that currently works and is competitive against the online retailers. To compete the big 4 need to reduce the range variety, buy in greater depth and reduce their costs, back end and front end.
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I get your point but it’s comparing like for like is it? Australians are furiously loyal to homemade goods, geographically it’s hugley different to the U.K. generally speaking most things are more expensive in Australia. Cars, booze, electronics, cigs and like you have already said food.
Having said all of that I’ve found Australia Custumer service up with the very best.
The tills in all my local Aldi stores are always chaos, constantly closing and opening and long queues. If they had a few self scan tills I'd go more often, I always avoid them when I only want a few things, waiting behind people doing a monthly shop is a right pita.
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Or alternatively offer something different ... Lean models are all well and good but at time where people are starting to become more aware of alternative eating there is an element of uncertainty long term for those lean operators.
Also Amazon go stores aren’t happening anytime soon mainstream. Look good in the mainstream press but that’s about it. Look deeper into and it’s has a lot of technical problems currently.