salary prospects

I'm a S\W engineer for HP...and 1 year younger, but don't make anything like the same.
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Have you been in for 13 years though? Also, I'm on civil service terms and conditions so get the progression pay rise every year (although I think we'll have to strike for it this year). I think the starting salary for an S/W engineer in HP is 16k so if you're 30 and been in for 7years I'd hazard a guess at 23k/24k? Am I close?

The problem I have is that I just want to keep earning more and more
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I'm the opposite. Promotions here come with increased responsibility. I'm currently trying to whittle down my responsibilities so I maintain a constant + inflation wage. I'm fed up spending 37.5 hours at work every week and 45 weeks of the year at work.

I want more leisure time - I want more time with my family - I want less stress - I want less work. Money is irrelevant atm - I already have everything I need and most of what I want.

I can't but more free time or less stress with more money can I?
 
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amigafan2003 said:
Have you been in for 13 years though? Also, I'm on civil service terms and conditions so get the progression pay rise every year (although I think we'll have to strike for it this year). I think the starting salary for an S/W engineer in HP is 16k so if you're 30 and been in for 7years I'd hazard a guess at 23k/24k? Am I close?
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What dept. you in?

I can't see very many strikes at all happening tbh.
 
I get £32K doing my PhD, should get a pay rise next month to.

Once I become a Doctor average salaries around here are about £45K


My advice, move to switzerland!
 
D.P. said:
I get £32K doing my PhD, should get a pay rise next month to.

Once I become a Doctor average salaries around here are about £45K


My advice, move to switzerland!
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That's a crazy amount of money for a PhD - but I guess it goes a shorter distance in Switzerland.
 
amigafan2003 said:
Have you been in for 13 years though? Also, I'm on civil service terms and conditions so get the progression pay rise every year (although I think we'll have to strike for it this year). I think the starting salary for an S/W engineer in HP is 16k so if you're 30 and been in for 7years I'd hazard a guess at 23k/24k? Am I close?
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:D Nowhere near mate. I better not say, it would cause all sorts of problems I suspect.
 
Nitefly said:
That's a crazy amount of money for a PhD - but I guess it goes a shorter distance in Switzerland.
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My living costs are about the same as back in Edinburgh. I pay £250 rent (living with 3 other people) which is the same as Edinburgh, but this includes heating. Electricity bill seems lower. Phone and internet the same. Weekly shopping is about 20% more expensive. Fast food is twice the price but good dinner is only 10-20% more expensive. Drinks are more expensive in clubs but cheaper in super markets.

Overall I pay maybe an extra 10-15% above Edinburgh prices.


When you do a PhD here you are doing a real job. I have contracted hour 9-6pm M-F, 5 weeks vacation allowance. I pay tax on my wage (overall tax + pension + insurance is 18% of salary). I spend 25% of my time teaching. Now I could do further teaching or admin work and get 30% more pay as well.
 
HP don't have a salary secrecy clause so I'm not sure why it would cause a problem.

You can look up your job code on the intranet and it will show you the min, avg and max for that job code.
 
What dept. you in?

I can't see very many strikes at all happening tbh.
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On the DWP account.

Strike ballot has already happened and it passed with 90% yes vote.

Because he earns more than the guy he's talking to?
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Why would that matter - salary transparency is ingrained in HP - if there is a dept where this isn't happening then it needs to be raised through the open door policy.
 
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D.P. said:
My living costs are about the same as back in Edinburgh. I pay £250 rent (living with 3 other people) which is the same as Edinburgh, but this includes heating. Electricity bill seems lower. Phone and internet the same. Weekly shopping is about 20% more expensive. Fast food is twice the price but good dinner is only 10-20% more expensive. Drinks are more expensive in clubs but cheaper in super markets.

Overall I pay maybe an extra 10-15% above Edinburgh prices.


When you do a PhD here you are doing a real job. I have contracted hour 9-6pm M-F, 5 weeks vacation allowance. I pay tax on my wage (overall tax + pension + insurance is 18% of salary). I spend 25% of my time teaching. Now I could do further teaching or admin work and get 30% more pay as well.
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Interesting. So it's effectively £27200 equiv. in Edinburgh - tax = £21k ish. Not entirely bad, but they are getting teaching out of you.
 
So you can find out how much an individual is earning?
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Yes - if I wanted to know how much Fred beside me is earning I'd just say "Fred - how much do you earn" then he'd tell me.

If you don't want to ask, you can just find the job code from the global employee list then look it up on the job code/salary matrix on the intranet. You'd have no idea where he was between the min and max though - it can be £30k difference even for some of the lower senior management grades - it's to allow salary increase without promotions - although tbh it doesn't happen often - HP like to use non consolidated bonuses for that purpose.
 
Even if you're TUPE'd in through an acquisition?

What's the salary range for a 'Services Information Developer, Expert'?
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If you're TUPE'd then your old salary ranges apply - you should already have a copy of those.
 
amigafan2003 said:
Yes - if I wanted to know how much Fred beside me is earning I'd just say "Fred - how much do you earn" then he'd tell me.

If you don't want to ask, you can just find the job code from the global employee list then look it up on the job code/salary matrix on the intranet. You'd have no idea where he was between the min and max though - it can be £30k difference even for some of the lower senior management grades - it's to allow salary increase without promotions - although tbh it doesn't happen often - HP like to use non consolidated bonuses for that purpose.
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So you can't (through the system) find out how much an individual earns, then?
 
amigafan2003 said:
If you're TUPE'd then your old salary ranges apply - you should already have a copy of those.
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But my job code (the one I mentioned), is the HP one I was mapped to when I was TUPE'd in. I was just wondering if the salary they pay me (dictated by my last company) was in the range for that code.

I guess it would have implications for future possible rises.
 
I graduated top of my class last year too and won "best final year project" award with a princely prize sum :)

But that was my 2nd time at uni. The grad scheme where I work is fairly good although we don't see anywhere near the money we are charged out at £700 a day.

So, contracting for me next year, £3k a week? I thank you...........
 
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