Samsung 64GB 2.5" SATA-II MLC Solid State Hard Drive

marscay · 17 Mar 2009 at 22:33

dirtydog said:
Not sure, 128K is meant to be the recommended level AFAIK. I had thought that Vista set it to that by default if you let the Vista setup format for you.

Vista defaults to a 1MB offset.

marscay · 17 Mar 2009 at 23:47

my sammys under Server x64 2008, better results than i see under Vista 64 - like pretty much everything else.

LeJimster · 18 Mar 2009 at 00:06

Supertaff said:
Also LeJimster, can you give me more details in regards the the cradle your using for the Samsungs, I've got an 900 case as well and that looked like a good set up for them. I know you can't provide me with a competitor, but couldn't find the product anywhere based on the description in the picture post.

Try googling StarTech 2.5

dirtydog · 18 Mar 2009 at 08:30

HD Tach results are virtually halved now, compared to when the drive was new and empty:

Although the ATTO results are the same as ever.

[timko] · 18 Mar 2009 at 08:53

marscay said:
my sammys under Server x64 2008, better results than i see under Vista 64 - like pretty much everything else.

Marcsay, have you tried enabling "Advance performance" in the device manager?

See LeJimster's post if you're not sure where the setting is...

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13609152&postcount=20

[timko] · 18 Mar 2009 at 09:15

dirtydog said:
HD Tach results are virtually halved now, compared to when the drive was new and empty:

Servo has told you that HDTach has issues with blank SSDs (regardless of brand)...

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13646043&postcount=190

The advertised maximum speeds for the Samsung MLC are around 100Mb/s read and 80Mb/s write. Your original HDTach result here...

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13645958&postcount=188

...shows the bug creeping in and your current result is more accurate (and in line with advertised speeds for a single drive) now that you have some content on there.

Like Servo said before, stick to ATTO or at the very least don't use HDTach for an empty SSD

FreeStream · 18 Mar 2009 at 13:54

VortexA1 said:
SSDs in RAID totally worth it over a Velociraptor!

It'll be OS X software RAID tho :/

I am soooo tempted tho...

*Does more research*

Ok if I got two of these in software RAID 0, how long would they last before they kick the bucket?

Lets say 12 hours a day usage?

VortexA1 · 18 Mar 2009 at 15:20

It's the write usage of 10000 writes. So 128gb in raid would be 1280000 gb of writing. If you keep half spare of the disk it gives you 640000gb of writing. I'm sure on that basis it'll last a while. That calculation sounds good doesn't it - and therefore the longevity wouldn't be an issue.

Supertaff · 18 Mar 2009 at 18:41

Ok, picked up two of the drives today. I work 15 minutes away from one of the outlets.

Decided not to go with the i7 upgrades at this point, even though the geek in me wants to get them I think I can hold off until the prices drop a bit, as in reality I don't need the extra ooomf. Tthough I'm sure Empire Total War would play a little better.

Cheers for the info LeJimster I'll be putting an order in for one of them looks like a neat way to mount them.

I'm going to try to start an install this evening of Vista 64 on them. Do I need to go through this whole thread to find the best way to carry out the install or is there a concise 1,2,3.... instructions somewhere else.

Cheers

Taff

Bane · 18 Mar 2009 at 18:57

It's funny reading this thread how much OCZ forum is referenced. Once SSD prices fall considerably I'll probably get a larger OCZ model to reward them for the resource

[timko] · 18 Mar 2009 at 19:22

Supertaff said:
I'm going to try to start an install this evening of Vista 64 on them. Do I need to go through this whole thread to find the best way to carry out the install or is there a concise 1,2,3.... instructions somewhere else.

This...

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52912

...scroll down to the Vista logo section if you don't have an ICH10R based mobo

Supertaff · 18 Mar 2009 at 19:46

[timko];13708815 said:
This...

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52912

...scroll down to the Vista logo section if you don't have an ICH10R based mobo

Cheers for the link Timko.

Taff

matt100 · 18 Mar 2009 at 19:59

so is he suggesting you install the OS on your RAID setup, then tweak it, then install the OS again?

[timko] · 18 Mar 2009 at 20:05

matt100 said:
so is he suggesting you install the OS on your RAID setup, then tweak it, then install the OS again?

No. The alignment is done with the recovery disk (or the Vista install disk), he provides a link in his post...

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=355899&postcount=2

Once you've done that then you install Vista

marscay · 19 Mar 2009 at 05:28

[timko];13704520 said:
Marcsay, have you tried enabling "Advance performance" in the device manager?

yeh of course, i've always used that for all my drives ...since forever

under Server 2008 the speeds at the top end are slightly lower versus Vista but they're faster where it matters for general OS usage.

marscay · 19 Mar 2009 at 05:33

VortexA1 said:
It's the write usage of 10000 writes. So 128gb in raid would be 1280000 gb of writing. If you keep half spare of the disk it gives you 640000gb of writing. I'm sure on that basis it'll last a while. That calculation sounds good doesn't it - and therefore the longevity wouldn't be an issue.

longetivity is blown way out of proportion by ppl who have no idea what they're talking about - under even moderate/high usage most users will replace them with newer/better models before they die anyway and if you're super careful with them they should run happily for years.

Chillimonster · 19 Mar 2009 at 08:27

Got two of these in my main machine, and TBH not that impressed. The speed is there, but i just want to 'fit and forget' and not have to worry about tweaking, movind cahes off them etc, so will be selling them on at what i paid (ie the lower price

), and going back to my raided Raptors.

Just need to build up some more posts so i can post in the FS forum now (how many posts is it these days?)

marscay · 19 Mar 2009 at 09:09

wow they crap all over any mechanical hdd, some ppl are never happy.

250 posts i think mate.

dirtydog · 19 Mar 2009 at 09:17

Chillimonster said:
Got two of these in my main machine, and TBH not that impressed. The speed is there, but i just want to 'fit and forget' and not have to worry about tweaking, movind cahes off them etc, so will be selling them on at what i paid (ie the lower price ), and going back to my raided Raptors.

Just need to build up some more posts so i can post in the FS forum now (how many posts is it these days?)

Hmm I don't think you'll be selling them on here matey

The tweaking you need to do is minimal and only needs doing once. You don't need to move browser caches etc. if you don't want to.

Supertaff · 19 Mar 2009 at 13:20

Managed to get the base Vista 64 OS Installed last night and applied the tweaks from the OCZ forums. e.g. Ramdrive.

Vista now boots approx 15 secs to the log in screen(after BIOS post)

Then once log in details provided it is extremly quick getting into a stage where the system is able to be used.

Will try to post some stats tonight and do some comparisons between the Velociraptor and F1 thats also in the machine.

Easy to install, get delivery of the mounting case that LeMinster gave me details of tomorrow.

Taff