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Sandy Bridge Reviews

Well the K series will be fine for those wanting an i5. But apparently there won't be any unlocked i3 CPUs, which pretty much wins the budget gaming PC war for AMD. I could be wrong there though, tis just what I've read.
 
I just had to check that passage! I am not trying to make a point of any kind. It's just that when I saw your sig, I was reminded of the time when I did read Nietzsche in Swedish some years ago. I believe that my memory of that passage was incorrect.

Anyway, here is the passage, taken from the Cambridge Edition of Beyond Good and Evil, edited by Horstmann and Norman, p. 69.

"Whoever fights with monsters should see to it that he does not become
one himself. And when you stare for a long time into an abyss, the abyss
stares back into you."

As much as I like Nietzsche, the preceding two aphorisms show just how silly he sometimes were:


"When a woman has scholarly inclinations, there is usually something
wrong with her sexuality. Even sterility makes her prone to a certain
masculinity of taste; man is, if you will, “the sterile animal.”"

and

"Comparing man and woman overall, you could say: woman would not
have a genius for finery if she did not have an instinct for the secondary
role."

Sorry for hijacking the thread in this manner...
 
Nodiggidy123 said:
if they cripple overclocking with these chips i can see a lot of people switching to AMD. unless ofcourse they are a lot faster already?
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People are hitting 4GHZ without trying, and even 4.5 with the K versions seems very easy. Some are hitting 5GHZ.... I don't think that's to crippled! ;)

But here's my thinking:

15 percent performance (I'm talking averages here, in various benchmarks, and just going to say 15 percent). + 10 percent higher overclocks on average.

Now; whether or not I go with the 2500 or the 2600 I'm not sure.

So far, 8GB of DDR3 + 2500 K @ 4-5GHZ + whatever GPU = :D:)
 
I thought the point of overclocking was to make lesser performing products perform as well as more expensive products. Paying to overclock just seems a bit counter productive to me, you might as well buy a more expensive CPU.
 
Klo said:
I thought the point of overclocking was to make lesser performing products perform as well as more expensive products. Paying to overclock just seems a bit counter productive to me, you might as well buy a more expensive CPU.
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We already pay more for overclockable parts. Decent mobos, aftermarket cpu coolers. Traditionally intel have always charged a ridiculous premium for chips with unlocked multipliers, so the extreme overclockers would get ripped off royally.

Perhaps less people are buying the extreme high-end chips, so Intel decided they can make the money back by charging a small premium to all overclockers instead of blatantly ripping off the extreme enthusiasts.
 
Klo said:
I thought the point of overclocking was to make lesser performing products perform as well as more expensive products. Paying to overclock just seems a bit counter productive to me, you might as well buy a more expensive CPU.
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Er, not really. £250 for an i7 950, £500 for an i7 960, or £750 for an i7 975? So that's £250 for a 133MHz overclock, or £500 for a 266MHz overclock from intel? No thanks. Intel charge stupid money for higher clocked models - I call it GHz tax for the stupid :). With SB it's only going to be about £15 more for the K versions. So whilst it does suck slightly to have to pay a little more, overclocking a K, which will do around 5GHz, will still be the closest thing to a free lunch we can get.
 
The K models look good to me.

I'd sooner they lock the FSB and allow for multiplier increases than vice versa which has been the case up until now.
 
jimbob27 said:
We already pay more for overclockable parts. Decent mobos, aftermarket cpu coolers.
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Not necessarily.You seem to have missed all the budget socket 775,socket AM2+ and AM3 overclocking motherboards for between £45 to £70. Even some of the cheaper socket 1156 motherboards under £70 can be used for overclocking a Core i3.

On top of this you have missed processors such as the E5000 series,Core i3 and Phenom II X2 Black Edition which are under £90.
 
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Which are still there...

The Sandy isn't a complete replacement of the 1156... I'm sure they'll still be around for a while yet.

Though I think it'll be clearer in a few months time when we know all the prices and the like.
 
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