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Sandy Bridge Reviews

Nasty time to get a ban, though probably very stupid of ocuk. Ban people around the time of such a big launch and all you are doing is sending them off to other forums and potentially other shops. Ocuk is not the only shop to have a forum after all. Doesn't take a brainiac to work out that other shops will be selling the chips are different prices anyway.
 
Not that impressed with these chips - don't get me wrong look nice for benchmarking and E-peen wavers, but in real terms not that much of an advance. If you are mostly gaming then I don't see any point of upgrading whatsoever.
Correct me if I'm wrong but a high-end Core 2 Quad will still handle any game you throw at it, right? Most upgrades aren't necessary, people just do it cos they're excited about the new technology and have cash to spare.

ix-2xxx is only ~15% faster clock-for-clock than ix-xxx but they also overclock much higher. If an average i5-760 can reach 4 GHz but an average i5-2500K can reach 4.6 GHz then it'll be ~30% faster in most situations. (We still don't know how the average chip'll overclock, this is just a guess.)
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but a high-end Core 2 Quad will still handle any game you throw at it, right? Most upgrades aren't necessary, people just do it cos they're excited about the new technology and have cash to spare.

ix-2xxx is only ~15% faster clock-for-clock than ix-xxx but they also overclock much higher. If an average i5-760 can reach 4 GHz but an average i5-2500K can reach 4.6 GHz then it'll be ~30% faster in most situations. (We still don't know how the average chip'll overclock, this is just a guess.)

most people are to used to needing to upgrade.

lets face it for the last few years even a med end cpu/mobo wont be holding back your gfx card
 
It is true, the reason the prices are so high is because people upgrade out of really a geekish obsession (lets be honest...we all have at some stage). But it looks to me that the prices are gradually coming down because people are wising up and realising that even several generations old tech is powerful enough for today's games. Of course once they reach the right price again then everyone will scratch the upgrade itch and the prices will rise up again.

its been 4 years since I upgrade and in truth I wouldn't be upgrading now if it wernt for my pc being on its last legs. Some part in it is dieing and without a spare psu I can't test if its that causing it. Worried because it may well be killing my 285GTX, which I didn't want to replace yet.
 
I'm assuming the i5-2500K is the one to be buying? Will I be able to get one of those and a motherboard for about £285'ish?

Currently doing a rebuild as my current computer is getting on a bit, I'm replacing everything except the graphics card (GeForce GTX 260 - 216 core) and the computer case. I bought a few items yesterday for the new build, including this PSU: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-042-BQ

Do you think that will be able to run an i5-2500K along with the GTX 260?
 
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p67 mobos cant oc? i like how intel aparently changing the naming scheme to make it more simple for the consumer....

lol its more complicated than ever for the people who actually buy the bloody mobo and cpu
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but a high-end Core 2 Quad will still handle any game you throw at it, right? Most upgrades aren't necessary, people just do it cos they're excited about the new technology and have cash to spare.

ix-2xxx is only ~15% faster clock-for-clock than ix-xxx but they also overclock much higher. If an average i5-760 can reach 4 GHz but an average i5-2500K can reach 4.6 GHz then it'll be ~30% faster in most situations. (We still don't know how the average chip'll overclock, this is just a guess.)

My problem is that one of the main games I like to play is Arma 2 and it is severely bottlenecked by my Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz. I would never make a purchasing decision based on one title but I think it would depend on the individual titles one plays and also, of course, the size of one's wallet. I'm sure there are many people who will upgrade for the sake of upgrading but I will probably be upgrading because I can justify it to myself quite easily. ;)
 
Let's not get carried away in the hype.

New Motherboards and untested tech (EFI etc) are coming in, Also theirs not a huge range of i7 competitors against the current i7 users, just a matter of who wants to splash the cash out.

I suspect for most 950-980x users, they are better of waiting for haswell.
 
Only really just read reviews as wasn't that interested.

The chips are faster, the mobo's are making them really very dissappointing and value wise, releasing the midrange first always looks bad. Like with AMD/Nvidia the new stuff, because its really replacement chips rather than new high end chips, the older stuff is better value right now and not really any slower. When something costs a decent amount more but offers unmatchable performance, no one cares.

I wasn't really paying attention but was somewhat aware it was only quad/dual cores to start off with, I figured 6 cores would be replaced in a couple months but its, Q4 for 6 core high end chips, which is a bit mad.

Does that not mean that assuming Bulldozer launches sometime May-June, that they'll have new gen, potentially brilliant 8 core chips almost half a year before Intel releases only their 6 core chips that likely won't come close to Bulldozer 8 core performance?

AMD could be on to a great year, even so I'm tempted to grab a 2500k system, power usage is ridiculously impressive, top overclocked 2600k system power usage vs a maxed out Phenom 2(quad or hex core) or any of the older Intel top end chips is superb really.


The thing thats really, between dissappointing and ridiculous, is the mobo's, why on earth is the Z68 chipset so far from being released and why on earth did they need a H67/P67 board, considering all the overclocking and important chipset functionality is on die, its pretty much insane to release a P67 for overclocking THAT ALSO disables the gpu. Its not like I want to use the intergrated graphics but, at some stage they should be trying to get on die gpu acceleration of things while you also have a discrete gpu, disabling any chance of that is honestly, ridiculous and backwards and working against everything "fusion" type chips are moving towards.

AMD won't get that right either, I highly doubt they'll have a chipset that disables it but enabling on die gpu acceleration with discrete gpu will be problematic, but both companies should be working on intergrating gpu acceleration and a whole range of mobo's with the gpu disabled really hurts that end goal.

If the Z68 was out and available I'd probably pick up a 2500k system when its available but with two basically poor motherboard choices, gpu and no overclocking, or paying for a on die gpu I can't use both seem like I'm being cheated. :(

Really I just can't explain why Intel felt the need to disable the GPU on the P67 chipset, theres not a single situation I can think up where its a good idea for Intel.

Especially with Bulldozer providing real competition for Intel, it being high end and out well before Intel's "high end" chips, on par price wise with the new Intel chips(most likely) artificially limiting the P67 chipset for literally no sane reason at all, seems incredibly stupid.
 
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I'm jumping straight on these when they're released, my e8400's due an upgrade :P

Same here. i7/i5's just haven't offered enough of an improvement for my purposes over my 8500 to warrant the cost. The promise of 5Ghz potential will see my 775 days well and truly behind me though!

Might have to clock the 8500 to death first to see what it was capable of!
 
Same here. i7/i5's just haven't offered enough of an improvement for my purposes over my 8500 to warrant the cost. The promise of 5Ghz potential will see my 775 days well and truly behind me though!

Might have to clock the 8500 to death first to see what it was capable of!

Out of interest, do you need the increased performance? Or is this because you have some money to burn and like new tech :D
 
I'm finding the potential of 5 GHz on air just too tempting. It may just be a performance statistic and of little real world use, but it's so tempting.

I also love the thrill of new tech and although the CPU is only really a 'face lift' the chip set and format is radically different. Finding ways to tweak and overclock the new tech should be fun.

I have to admit that I'm lucky having sold my i7 setup last June, having a great game laptop and the funds available to have some fun.

I guess I'm leaning towards the 2600k but am very undecided between H67 and P67 mobo although that Asus P67 looks beautiful.

Roll on Sunday.
 
I'm finding the potential of 5 GHz on air just too tempting. It may just be a performance statistic and of little real world use, but it's so tempting.

I also love the thrill of new tech and although the CPU is only really a 'face lift' the chip set and format is radically different. Finding ways to tweak and overclock the new tech should be fun.

I have to admit that I'm lucky having sold my i7 setup last June, having a great game laptop and the funds available to have some fun.

I guess I'm leaning towards the 2600k but am very undecided between H67 and P67 mobo although that Asus P67 looks beautiful.

Roll on Sunday.

You can't overclock a H67
 
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