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Sandybridge design flaw recalls beginning!!

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SimonMaltby said:
But surely a man (sorry person) from Intel will turn up on your doorstep with a shiny new motherboard and fit it for you before saying here is a free 'I was Recalled by Intel' badge. LOL

Best bit is... new motherboard = windows OEM licence / activation issues - now that will be fun LOL
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Do you still have to re-activate if its an identical board ?
 
andyr said:
Do you still have to re-activate if its an identical board ?
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Ummm good point, although there will be a different serial number and maybe a different revision number so there is a chance.

When I got my replacement UD4 windows XP forced me to activate before it would open after the change. Fortunately it's not an issue for me as I am a Microsoft Partner and therefore activating can be done as often as I like, but if I was OEM i bet i would have needed to phone Microsoft.
 
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When sandy bridge prices kept going up i was gutted because it became beyond my tight budget, now im soo glad i decided to wait for AMD's new chip. Feel sorry for all those with headaches on the way.
 
SimonMaltby said:
Best bit is... new motherboard = windows OEM licence / activation issues - now that will be fun LOL
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You just phone them if you have any problems reactivating, despite widespread opinion held by retail owners even with OEM license they will happily reactivate for you.
 
Stripes said:
Do we know if that quoted 5% failure rate over 3 years (based on laptop usage patterns) is per port or per board?
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So far the only detail Intel has given is they expect 5-15% of chipsets to fail over a 3 year period. Normal failure rate should be 1-2% really, personally I see this as sketchy info and failure rate over a given time is generall averaged for all problems and 3 years is a standard period to mention for "normal" problems.

I really do get the impression this problem will hit every single person who uses sata 2 ports, the problem itself is described as the transistor involved simply failing due to voltage being applied. This voltage is applied 100% of the time its on, using the sata 2 ports or not. That means, realistically it will be rare for that transistor to not fail, the issue is that few people use more than 2 ports so most people just won't even be aware of a fault.

We've really got no info about how long the transistor takes to fail, the timeline Intel have mentioned is misleading, as is the expected failure rates due to the nature of usage.

I'd assume a LOT of people on OCUK and other enthusiast forums use more than 2 drives, but they make up a tiny tiny portion of sales, 99% of Sandy bridge sales will be through Dell/HP/Acer/etc, the vast majority of them have SSD's/extra hard drives as extra costs, and most users who buy a "dell" type box are also more likely to back up to a USB drive than adding second internal drives or paying for an expensive SSD.


You have to remember that probably the most crucial part of the announcement was keeping the share price as high as possible, so it has been worded to sound as low key a problem as possible.

Full recall/replacement program costing a billion dollars(I'd also bet my life on that being an underestimate), isn't something you do when it will only effect a very very small portion of people.

IE 5-15% of people who use the sata 2 ports, would be 1-2% of all users, 5-15% of all users really does scream out, all the chipsets will fail if use sata 2 ports.

Will be interesting if several people/review sites/tech sites keep sandybridge chipsets going to see how long they take to fail, infact, someone should definately do that.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....ahem...

Poor sandy bridge, that's pretty much killed the new socket type dead right there. I'll wait for LGA 2011 before I even consider upgrading.

LGA 1366 wins
 
For clarity, isn't it applicable to chipsets manufactured before Jan 2011?
And only (I say only ) the SATA II ports, not the SATA III (6gb) ports?
 
Invader675 said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....ahem...

Poor sandy bridge, that's pretty much killed the new socket type dead right there. I'll wait for LGA 2011 before I even consider upgrading.

LGA 1366 wins
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1366 is for snails M8, a half dead SB can wop it, no problem
 
I think the problem to be resolved is that

a) Intel have stated that all chipsets supplied into the market following 9th January, in effect all motherboards with this type of chipset have a bug.

b) The bug may only affect 5 - 15 % (1 in 20 to 1 in 6 users) at up to three years usage.

c) The bug affects users in one aspect found so far, use of chipset SATA ports 2 - 5.

d) So far there is no diagnostic to determine if the problem has occurred or is likely to be occurring or when it would occur.

To my mind it is restrictive and possibly a restraint on use to limit the connections to the board beyond the advertised capability. This would mean limiting the SATA to only certain ports for example.
It is arguable once more information has become available to say whether the uses have been limited beyond what the user may reasonably require or expect.
I believe that until and if the bug is proven, there is little need to panic as some have, but the company Intel must provide all end users with the option to return the chipset within a reasonable timeframe, 3 - 6 months and with minimal downtime and cost to the user.
It is not reasonable for Intel to expect suppliers and retailers to filter returns using tests to determine whether the board is currently working fine. Because the bug is not a catastrophic failure on turn on, but is time related and could occur at any time frame

andy.
 
valkia said:
If any of you are worried of this POTENTIAL glitch, we are now stocking an extra range of SATA II Controller Cards :)
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Thats the equivelent of saying to a brand new £30K Freelander owner....

I know your 4 weel drive no longer works....but luckily we have a superb range of outboard motors you can attach as a work around.

Erm....No I would like it to work 100% as intended please or GTFO.
 
ademcg said:
Thats the equivelent of saying to a brand new £30K Freelander owner....

I know your 4 weel drive no longer works....but luckily we have a superb range of outboard motors you can attach as a work around.

Erm....No I would like it to work 100% as intended please or GTFO.
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onboard\sata controller card = same end result

Obviously at extra cost.
 
[Q7777]QUOTE=ademcg;Erm....No I would like it to work 100% as intended please or GTFO.

Was That really needed.
All there Trying to do is help ppl who r Worried.
 
I just looked through the Gigabyte UD7 manual and to me it looks like the 6 gigabyte Sata ports also go back to the P67 Chipset !

Extracts from the manual:-

SATA3_0/1 (SATA 6Gb/s Connectors, Controlled by P67 Chipset)

SATA2_2/3/4/5 (SATA 3Gb/s Connectors, Controlled by P67 Chipset)

Only GSATA3_6/7 (SATA 6Gb/s Connectors, Controlled by Marvell 88SE9128)

:(:(
 
andyr said:
1366 is for snails M8, a half dead SB can wop it, no problem
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Not quite, check this review > not the i7920 at 3.6, roughly the same speed as a stock 2500k/2600k, performs very well against them. So i7920 at anything up to 4.4 will perform even better against the 2500k/2600k, don't get me wrong its a cracking bit of kit. Its a shame about the mobo fault spoiling it, ;) so for most i7920 owners its not a worth while upgrade. :)

Review - http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/01/03/intel_sandy_bridge_2600k_2500k_processors_review/3
 
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