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** SAPPHIRE CUSTOM 290's ARE ON THE WAY!! **

Shocky-FM said:
MSI GTX780 Lightning was at stock, it was not overclocked, it's clockspeeds are comparable to many other non-reference GTX780 which are cheaper so it's not special at all in that regard.

Those overclocks don't sound right for stock cooling, most GTX780 max out at 1200-1250, if you get to 1300 your lucky and even then probably not game stable. I'm going to presume your overclocking numbers for the R290 are just as unreliable. :p
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Gibbo's numbers are quite reasonable for the 290

I have four stock Asus 290Xs and they can all hit 1250/1625 on air.
 
Gibbo said:
Nope, we had Classified on its stock cooler, fans at 100% running at 1384MHz stable, benchmarking, game testing the whole lot, with zero artifacting.

R290 the same, 1200MHz is possible, stable, quite a few people here have achieved the same, some higher.

Our results are spot on.
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I've had three GTX780, Pny GTX780 Enthusiast, MSI 780GTX Gaming and the EVGA GeForce GTX 780 ACX FTW.

None of them reached 1300MHz even with max voltage so I don't think your numbers are reliable, EVGA had really loud coil whine even when gaming so that was returned.

Kaapstad said:
Gibbo's numbers are quite reasonable for the 290

I have four stock Asus 290Xs and they can all hit 1250/1625 on air.
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In the review they only managed 1110 on the 290.
 
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Gibbo does the 290 toxic come with a backplate? I'll be treating myself to a 290 soon :P either the toxic, lightning or direct CU once more details of them all are out.

Definitely the best price to performance with good cooling and extra oc!. Bonus bonus :-)
 
Shocky-FM said:
I've had three GTX780, Pny GTX780 Enthusiast, MSI 780GTX Gaming and the EVGA GeForce GTX 780 ACX FTW.

None of them reached 1300MHz even with max voltage so I don't think your numbers are reliable, EVGA had really loud coil whine even when gaming so that was returned.
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So because you can't do it, I can't? I think not. Your talking to an ex 3D Mark world champion and we employ the current world champion here, we know which brands have the best chance and we know what we are doing.

PNY, not an OC brand, MSI Gaming, not their max brand. EVGA ACX FTW, a card design for out of the box speed, not max overclocking.

If your into overclocking, why are you buying the cards you have done, at least give yourself the best odds and go with an EVGA Classified, MSI Lightning or KFA2 HOF. None of them are guaranteed but I achieved game and benchmark stable:-

780 Classy - 1384MHz myself and 8 Pack - Link to review!
780 HOF - 1310Mhz myself - R290 OC thread review
780 Lightning = I can type into google OC results and see several members getting beyond 1300MHz on stock cooler, 8 Pack holds world records with it.


If your overclocking and want over 1300Mhz, stop buying junk cards, we managed the above with them artefact free and stable, we could have taken the Classy beyond 1400MHz and the KFA2 HOF was pushing 1327MHz with the odd artefact. ;)
 
Kaapstad said:
Gibbo's numbers are quite reasonable for the 290

I have four stock Asus 290Xs and they can all hit 1250/1625 on air.
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Thanks m8, seems to think some people are narrow minded enough to think because they can't, then no one else can.

People need to realise overclocking is an art, you need the best hardware and the best power, by that I mean clean and efficient. Don't try overclocking on junk power supplies or on an un-filtered power source for a start.
 
Kaapstad said:
I am not saying everyone's will, I am just saying that what Gibbo managed on the 290P and 290X is quite easy to reproduce. The only problem is not everyone want's to use the Asus bios and GPU Tweak.
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And I see and know of many people with GTX 780's over 1300MHz on the stock cooler, if they went with a decent card in the first place. ;)
 
Gibbo said:
Thanks m8, seems to think some people are narrow minded enough to think because they can't, then no one else can.

People need to realise overclocking is an art, you need the best hardware and the best power, by that I mean clean and efficient. Don't try overclocking on junk power supplies or on an un-filtered power source for a start.
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What do you mean by an unfiltered power souce Gibbo?
 
People need to realise overclocking is an art


It's a learned skill. It's not an art. Being good at overclocking isn't the same thing as painting the Sistine chapel, let's not get carried away here.
 
Darujhistan said:
People need to realise overclocking is an art


It's a learned skill. It's not an art. Being good at overclocking isn't the same thing as painting the Sistine chapel, let's not get carried away here.
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Very true, its more about the right ingredients and knowing exactly what your doing if your trying to break records.
 
LtMatt said:
What do you mean by an unfiltered power souce Gibbo?
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If your going for a world record, you should be running of a filtered power source to ensure power supply is constant and clean, so a UPS, Surge protector etc. etc. and ensure your plug as a 13 AMP fuse in it. ;)

Not something we actually do here, but if your chasing world records, it is quite important to ensure your power supply is good.
 
Gibbo said:
So because you can't do it, I can't? I think not. Your talking to an ex 3D Mark world champion and we employ the current world champion here, we know which brands have the best chance and we know what we are doing.

PNY, not an OC brand, MSI Gaming, not their max brand. EVGA ACX FTW, a card design for out of the box speed, not max overclocking.

If your into overclocking, why are you buying the cards you have done,
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Why buy them?! because they were the cheapest/best value and the lowest price point for them is comparable to this Sapphire 290 card.

I'm not doubting that if you cherry pick cards or pay the extra you will get good results.

But does that represent the average overclock users will get with their non-reference GTX780's or even R290? NO!!!!! :p

As you can see from the review on the Sapphire card, they only managed 1110, that's probably more realistic.
 
780 is easy to clock man!!! 1300 on stock colour on all boards designed for clocking I have tested was not a problem. Reference boards there is a problem because PWM is not so strong and under load Vdroop is very high.

The ASUS DC2 I would add to Gibbos list. But essentially the Classy, HOF, lightening and DC2 are the 780 of choice for the overclocker.
 
Gibbo said:
Very true, its more about the right ingredients and knowing exactly what your doing if your trying to break records.
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Yes.

I wondered if you had thought about pointing out which cards tend to OC best somewhere in your product listings, as it might save a lot of tears from people who cry their little eyes out over 50-100 mhz here and there, and who obviously care more about benchmarking than gaming!


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Shocky all R290 none X I have tested with ASUS completely safe bios can do 1150+ mhz core no problem. Most 1200 easy. Memory is where the variance lies 1700 is very hard 1550 to 1600 a realistic target.

Overclockers buy the best cards for overclocking which are the premium PWM product. Gamers and other users overclock but the results are more varable at this product level.
 
8 Pack said:
Shocky all R290 none X I have tested with ASUS completely safe bios can do 1150+ mhz core no problem. Most 1200 easy. Memory is where the variance lies 1700 is very hard 1550 to 1600 a realistic target.

Overclockers buy the best cards for overclocking which are the premium PWM product. Gamers and other users overclock but the results are more varable at this product level.
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We just had two reviews posted where neither could reach 1200 with this Sapphire card, one reached 1110 and the other stopped at 1100 and claimed 1200 caused artifacts.

It doesn't sound like 1200 is easy on this card, of course I understand that if you spend extra you can get cards that are more likely to reach higher overclocks but I don't think this is one of them.

Also giving overclocking predictions based on the more premium cards is going to lead to allot of disappointed users.
 
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