What an odd reply.
You do realise a reference 780 can be clocked to 1200mhz using the reference cooler, and maintain sub 75 degrees at less than 49 DB. The 290 and 290X cannot do that with their reference cooler, because they throttle at stock clocks already, and sound like a plasma heated dyson hoover. There is no headroom unless you buy a new cooler or watercool it. Which would then take the card to the same price point as a 780.
I'm happy to provide proof for all of this, screenshots and scores alike. I've been through 3 780's in the last few months, two reference, one windforce 3x OC, and had both reference under water for benchmarking with full cover EK blocks.
All that being said, nobody would buy a 780 now until the price drops again to realign with AMD, but anyone with a 780 or Titan would have to be insane to sell up and buy these instead, unless they intend to watercool. The Magnesium alloy reference cooler is far superior.
So explain how I got 1200Mhz core then with the reference cooler with ZERO throttling? All benchmarkers run with fans at 100% when going for maximum overclock, as such with the fan at such speeds and card clocked to 1200MHz it remains sub 85c. At stock clocks it is very easy to keep an R290X from throttling, you just set a GPU temp limit of 90c and set the fan maximum fan speed of 60%, this keeps it both quiet/reasonable and prevents throttling.
I don't need you to provide me any proof, I was overclocking champion 10 years ago, in short I know what I am doing, 8 Pack even more so. Just like I can run 780's at 1300MHz on their stock cooler if the silicon is good, again with fans at 100%, which is also loud, just not as loud as AMD.
I don't understand why you want to show me screenshots? I know what 780's and every other card on the market can do, I've tested them all.
I've water-cooled 780's, they can achieve upto 1400MHz core in such circumstances again with good silicon and the R290's can manage 1300Mhz, both cards in complete silence and at these max levels the R290 still edges it.
So I am a little confused as to what you want to prove to me? I've already done it!
Of course I agree if you have a 780, its only a sidestep upgrade and simply not worthwhile, at no point have I suggested anyone with a 780 change to a R290, that would just be pointless.
On prices 780's won't move again, NVIDIA sales have exploded with the new price points, VGA sales in general are at the highest we've seen them in years, if not outperforming all previous records, seems to me current pricing set by AMD and NVIDIA is spot on, the sales speak volumes of such.
You do realise as well when you say buying an R290, then a waterblock brings it to same price point, difference being the R290 would have a big performance advantage and be quieter.
Right now we are testing 780GHz and 780Ti and clocking them, to add to the results, were world champions here, myself holding 3D Mark 2001 title from some years ago and 8Pack with multiple titles, we know exactly what were doing.
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