** SAPPHIRE R290 PRO REVIEW & 1000+ IN STOCK!! **

maxilive said:
Trying to order now! :D

But my card is failing due to security reasons.... Blarg Nationwide y u do this :( Hopefully they will be still around once I finish work so I can sort out my card!
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Weeee! Gone home for lunch and my order is now set!

Work's proxy must have been making the online security go crazy.

Bring on tomorrow ^.^
 
Gibbo said:
So explain how I got 1200Mhz core then with the reference cooler with ZERO throttling? All benchmarkers run with fans at 100% when going for maximum overclock, as such with the fan at such speeds and card clocked to 1200MHz it remains sub 85c. At stock clocks it is very easy to keep an R290X from throttling, you just set a GPU temp limit of 90c and set the fan maximum fan speed of 60%, this keeps it both quiet/reasonable and prevents throttling.

I don't need you to provide me any proof, I was overclocking champion 10 years ago, in short I know what I am doing, 8 Pack even more so. Just like I can run 780's at 1300MHz on their stock cooler if the silicon is good, again with fans at 100%, which is also loud, just not as loud as AMD.

I don't understand why you want to show me screenshots? I know what 780's and every other card on the market can do, I've tested them all.

I've water-cooled 780's, they can achieve upto 1400MHz core in such circumstances again with good silicon and the R290's can manage 1300Mhz, both cards in complete silence and at these max levels the R290 still edges it.

So I am a little confused as to what you want to prove to me? I've already done it!

Of course I agree if you have a 780, its only a sidestep upgrade and simply not worthwhile, at no point have I suggested anyone with a 780 change to a R290, that would just be pointless.

On prices 780's won't move again, NVIDIA sales have exploded with the new price points, VGA sales in general are at the highest we've seen them in years, if not outperforming all previous records, seems to me current pricing set by AMD and NVIDIA is spot on, the sales speak volumes of such.

You do realise as well when you say buying an R290, then a waterblock brings it to same price point, difference being the R290 would have a big performance advantage and be quieter.

Right now we are testing 780GHz and 780Ti and clocking them, to add to the results, were world champions here, myself holding 3D Mark 2001 title from some years ago and 8Pack with multiple titles, we know exactly what were doing. :)
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Your overexageration with temperatures and "reasonable" noise levels on the reference coolers is impressive. Whatever makes you sell more plasma hoovers right?
Anyone buying a reference 290 or 290X without watercooling needs their head checking. Any sensible person cooling on air should wait for AIB partner's custom cards.
 
RCoon said:
Your overexageration with temperatures and "reasonable" noise levels on the reference coolers is impressive. Whatever makes you sell more plasma hoovers right?
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Then I shall simply direct you to customers who have these cards and are happy with them.

Temperatures upto 95c is fine (above it will throttle), the product is designed to work at such temperatures, you do understand this concept? So what about Titan, it also runs in the mid 80's range when the fan it set to stay quiet, it too like the AMD card also has no issues, the cards are designed to run at such temperatures and silicon can actually run upto around 120c before you've got a melt down issue. But as the expert your pro-claiming to be and want to prove to me stuff I already know, surely you know this? Facts are an R290 with fan set to a maximum speed of 55% won't even reach 95c, so won't throttle, even if you set the fan to 40% which is very quiet it still might not throttle, all depending on case/ambient temps etc.

The stock cooler with fan speed set to 55% is perfectly reasonable and is enough to keep the card typically around mid 80's with no throttling, even with a gentle overclock, again several reviews pointing this out online along with owners themselves.

We are not hear to say something is better than it really is, we've never said they are silent or run cool, we've told people how it is, then people can make their own informed decision, 100's of reviews out there, some saying its quiet and fine, some saying its loud, plenty of end-users out there now too.

I've openly said R290 / 780 are evenly matched, if you want silence guaranteed whilst gaming buy a GTX 780, if you want something which is newer, still more performance to potentially come, new technologies such as Mantle, True Audio, want to save some cash and are aware the card will not be as quiet or cool, then buy the AMD.

You need to realise we stock 1000's of both, what the customer buys is upto them and still a sale for us and to be honest we'd rather sell more of the expensive cards than the lower cost ones.

So there is no gain for us to lie or say something which is not true.
 
RCoon said:
Your overexageration with temperatures and "reasonable" noise levels on the reference coolers is impressive. Whatever makes you sell more plasma hoovers right?
Anyone buying a reference 290 or 290X without watercooling needs their head checking. Any sensible person cooling on air should wait for AIB partner's custom cards.
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In your opinion.

Oh, it's over-exaggeration by the way ;)
 
I don't understand all the hostility :)

How much noise I'm prepared to accept on a daily basis is not up for negotiation - I've had my days of running Delta fans thank you :D

Windforce GTX780 no overclock. 78C at full load, looping demo, 39-40dB. The Radeon 290 equivalent is either hotter or louder depending on your choices. In my view that's not worth the trade-off but I can understand that for some it is, no problem.

Actually I also have an issue with the 770/780 is the RAM allocation. 2GB on the 770 is too little for the latest crop of games so only choice imo is between a 770 4GB and a 780 3GB
 
covenantuk said:
I don't understand all the hostility :)

How much noise I'm prepared to accept on a daily basis is not up for negotiation - I've had my days of running Delta fans thank you :D

Windforce GTX780 no overclock. 78C at full load, looping demo, 39-40dB. The Radeon 290 equivalent is either hotter or louder depending on your choices. In my view that's not worth the trade-off but I can understand that for some it is, no problem.

Actually I also have an issue with the 770/780 is the RAM allocation. 2GB on the 770 is too little for the latest crop of games so only choice imo is between a 770 4GB and a 780 3GB
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Agreed, just some people are mind bent on making out the R290 series to be far louder than they really are.

But the 780 WindForce are the quiestest, probably the only quieter card is Gainward Phantom. 8Pack is just testing 780 GHz from Gigabyte, its the quietest of them all, superb card. :)
 
Arrrrrgh! I have never been tempted by a north of £300 GPU this much before! :p

Any idea when we might be likely to see solutions with custom coolers? I might like a dual fan card which doesn't boil my WC fluid in the tubes above it. :D

As a previous owner of an overclocked reference GTX480 I can say that it is a very real problem! :p
 
Clov!s said:
How do these compare to the 7990?
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HD 7990 still is performance King, but a pair of these would smash a HD 7990 and of course have more flexibility.

I love the HD 7990, but a pair of these would be my choice any day for a little over £100 more and whole load more performance.
 
why do people insist on posting the same comment over and over, we know its loud it's a bloody reference AMD cooler. All the reference AMD coolers are loud stop pointing out the obvious and go away.

It's loud, it's hot but it dishes out more performance for the money spent than other cards on the market, the people buying them know the score.
 
Ahhh!

Im gonna resist and wait for next gen since my 680 is still coping well with everything that's been thrown at it.
 
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