School criticized for not being multicultural enough

[estebanrey]

Disliking cultural traditions is racist?

Laughable.

It would laughable if that's what I said.

If you have rational reasons for disliking some cultural traditions (for example there are genuine arguments for and against the Burqa) but if you think that Hindu women are stupid for painting a bindi (red circle) on their foreheads and think they should just covert to Christianity if they want to live here that would be at the very least xenophobic.

 

[deuse]

""A culture of fear and intimidation has taken grip" in Birmingham schools caught up in the Trojan Horse claims, says Ofsted chief Sir Michael Wilshaw."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-27763113

It took this long to sort out these Islamic idiots.

 

[deuse]

Now Luton is having it's schools looked in to. How did they let it go this far?

 

[Narj]

Every day recently just seems to be wah wah wah racist this racist that wah wah. So bored of it all

It's making these forums tiresome to read in all honesty. Everyone's a racist/homophobe/islamaphobe, whatever.

 

[elmarko]

so my daughter dislikes curry and I drive a white van I'm now a racist which proves my point it's to easy to be branded a racist if that makes me a racist then what the he'll I'm a racist where's my pitch fork

I'm not actually saying you are a racist (you could discern this if you read my post) - just that the story you presented sounds like utter BS. Either you have a head teacher who is monumentally stupid or you are missing some other details - based on the kind of crap we see on this forum I'd go with the latter.

(also do you actually drive a white van?)

My asian friend gave me a samosa the other week, I didnt like it. At first i thought i didnt like it because it was too greasy, now i know that i didnt like it because im obviously a racist. I will now have to tell him we can not be friends anymore and that i hate his family as well. Shame really as we were really good friends .

Come to think of it I am not that keen on olives, my girlfriend is Italian. Damn I will have to dump her when i get home as i obviously hate Italians

My life is in bits, why did you do this to me, do you hate white people

I never implied that disliking food is racist (it clearly isn't) simply stating that the story sounds like the usual exaggerated rubbish you hear & is frankly unbelievable.

I've found all chippies gone crap to be fair chips are never cooked long enough all I seem to get is white raw potato sticks

Now I hate white people oh dear

If you presented your point in such a way which didn't make you out to sound 'challenged' then perhaps people would believe the story better.

The short of it is, I don't believe what you post.

(Free tip of the day)

Now Luton is having it's schools looked in to. How did they let it go this far?

I'd wager because unfortunately society has made people too reluctant to speak out against genuine concerns due to not wanting to be associated with the views of the EDL.

I'm against faith schools, or any form of religious indoctrination - along with all forms of child genital mutilation & don't believe any religious institutions of cultures should get a free pass to infringe on the human rights of others (children, enforcing religious laws - not that that's actually happened but I'd be strongly against that also). Sadly there is a population who use the genuine reasons to criticise a certain activity as a guise for racism/xenophobia.

They essentially make the social conversation difficult - as nobody wants to be on the same side of a debate as the EDL.

 

[robgmun]

Now Luton is having it's schools looked in to. How did they let it go this far?

Because it's very difficult for a devote Muslim who follows his religion to the letter to live in British society. Everywhere he goes in this country there is stuff that flies in the face of his view of religion. Women going around uncovered, smoking, drinking, eating pork and country full of kafirs, So is it really surprising they will always try to find ways to make the UK to be more to there liking.

And they have been for the last 20 years extremely successful at it. There was a woman on daily politics the other day and as soon as she started talking she pulled the race card, as long and Muslims keep doing this there will always be hate for them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27736270

It doesn't help that time and again that moderate Muslim completely disappear when things like this happen, it gives the impression to the rest of the UK that all Muslim think like this. And when they do finally appear there condemnation is lacklustre and without conviction

 

[Pawnless Endgame]

When I was at school it was

First school 100% white British
Middle school 99% white British
High school 98% white British

Never had any problems like this.

Serious question, but what the hell is middle and high school? I guess 'first' means primary school (ages 4-11), then you get secondary school which is 11-18.

As for the OP, it's a school trip, so I think that parents should decide whether to enrol their kids on it or not. E.g. my school frequently took us to Arthog for geography case studies, but it wasn't compulsory. Those that didn't go would have attended lessons as normal, then a supply teacher would have covered geography.

 

[Tefal]

If you read the article and come away being convinced that the school was pulled up by ofsted for not having any non-white kids then, congratulations, you're stupid enough to qualify as a DM reader.

Probably worth reading the last 2 or 3 paragraphs again, and thinking what it might mean if you unpick the DM bull

At Ofsted’s last visit in 2010, inspectors praised Payhembury as a ‘happy place’ but pointed out all the pupils were of ‘white British heritage’.

that the paragraph you're referring to?

 

[FoxEye]

Down here in Cornwall you can go for weeks on end without seeing a single black person. We have a few azns here tho

I'm not sure why this is, or why it's a problem. Conversely I wouldn't see anything wrong with more black people coming to Cornwall - but the reality is we're 99.99% white down 'ere.

Must all be raging racists.

 

[bitslice]

Most racists generally appear to believe that their race is superior to all others, I would have thought it quite rare for someone to solely hate a single race without harbouring similar feelings for any others.

Well it's a bit awkward when the white race/western culture is for some reason responsible for all the progress in the world.

West - Large Hadron Collider, Mars flight missions, Pot noodle
Other cultures - new laws about stoning women or killing gay people



I'm all for discovering other cultures, but Multiculturalism as it is enforced in the UK is solely about pretending all cultures are equal, but they just aren't.

 

[The Running Man]

Look everyone is racist in some way or other it's just how the brain works. Whether that's overt and explicit or averse is doesn't vreally matter too much. It's just the degrees that vary between people that differ and the rationale.

 

[Tefal]

Well it's a bit awkward when the white race/western culture is for some reason responsible for all the progress in the world.

West - Large Hadron Collider, Mars flight missions, Pot noodle
Other cultures - new laws about stoning women or killing gay people



I'm all for discovering other cultures, but Multiculturalism as it is enforced in the UK is solely about pretending all cultures are equal, but they just aren't.

the far east are pretty big contributors to tech, japan and china being major players in the LHC

 

[Angilion]

Im a little confused on what you have to hate to be classed as a racist ? If, for example I say i hate Americans (which i dont as i dont hate anyone) does that make me racist ? If I say i hate people that spend their days on a sun bed and come out looking like a leather purse, does that make me racist because they are a different colour to me?

"race" doesn't really mean anything, so the only relevant criterion is power. If someone has enough power to have <x> classed as a race for political reasons, then it is. So that's the "what". There's no need for hatred - even just lack of obedience to the person attacking you with a racism accusation can be enough.

"racism" has been abused so often as a means of getting and using power that it doesn't really have any meaning any more, if it ever did. It's still a useful weapon for people low enough to use it that way, though, which seems to be the main point of the whole idea.

 

[bitslice]

the far east are pretty big contributors to tech, japan and china being major players in the LHC

Japan - same as Germany, war created reinvestment
China - cheap labour, excellent hackers

I'm not saying they won't someday overtake the West, but they haven't made the same contribution so far (obviously leaving out their unique culture here)
Besides, multiculturalism in school is never about China/Japan, it's all about sucking up to the degenerate cultures.

 

[Tefal]

Japan - same as Germany, war created reinvestment
China - cheap labour, excellent hackers

I'm not saying they won't someday overtake the West, but they haven't made the same contribution so far (obviously leaving out their unique culture here)
Besides, multiculturalism in school is never about China/Japan, it's all about sucking up to the degenerate cultures.

most pf the design is now done in china not just the production.

 

[Xordium]

State school should be completely secular. If you wish to have your child educated according to your own personal preference eg Catholic or Muslim then it should be privately funded with nothing from the state. Even then the schools should follow strict guidelines to ensure the children's best interests are cared for and value systems that are incompatible with the principles of this country are maintained and not compromised.

 

[dacads]

Damn racist schools

 

[Narj]

no soggy white chips sticking together like I find these days just awesome crispyness

And what's wrong with WHITE chips? Racist!

 

[TommyV]

dailymail, can we ban ****ing dailymail ever being used as a news source in GD? It's such a huge trigger for pure idiocy.

It's not like it's every now and then, 9/10 threads referencing the news use DM.

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[asim18]

It doesn't help that time and again that moderate Muslim completely disappear when things like this happen, it gives the impression to the rest of the UK that all Muslim think like this. And when they do finally appear there condemnation is lacklustre and without conviction

You're blaming the wrong people. The non-appearance of moderate Muslims in media is because it would be contradictory to the sensationalist and propagandist aim of the very stories they're trying to sell! I (as a non-muslim with first hand experience with hundreds of Muslims and their beliefs) and every Muslim I personally know would be very keen to share a few non-biased words on stories about deluded criminals using Islam as a scapegoat for their wholly independent actions.

When moderate Muslims hear stuff like "Muslims want to take over so and so" do you really think they all "completely" disappear and wouldn't want to let people know the fact that "Hey I'm a Muslim here, and I don't have any plans to take over anything" If you really think so you're displaying signs of media brainwashing.

Muslims don't just disappear (I still don't really understand how anyone can be baffled enough to actually come to that conclusion, but hey ho this is OcUK), the media doesn't report on issues properly.

For every news subject you have special correspondents who give actual learned insight into particular stories. But when there's a headline that says "Muslims are taking over... (insert random place here)" for example, you hear nothing from an actual Muslim.

The reason you don't see the moderates "taking action" is because the act of "taking action" would mean relinquishing their moderative views. It would be nurturing hypocrisy... Then all the anti-Islam brigade would have more fuel for their hate... "oh the moderates aren't being very moderate" whine whine whine.