I think it's a balance of being a good idea at a high level (obviously not from an ongoing operational point of view) and adding random pieces of detail in to wind up those who are easily wound up.
Scottish cyclists to pay road tax
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I think it's a balance of being a good idea at a high level (obviously not from an ongoing operational point of view) and adding random pieces of detail in to wind up those who are easily wound up.
Sticks and stones my dear, well yes we clearly are that stupid then.
Can't see you coming up with anything else meaningful that would actually address the points concerned.
You're clearly a tool, when losing an argument.
Because some cyclists can do bad things, it is naive and downright stupid to think you can impose the same system of licencing and registration on bicycles that applies to motor vehicles. Anyone with an iota of common sense should see it is utterly unworkable and a complete non-starter.
Well you can, and I can't see you coming out with explanations of why it
A) is utterly unworkable
B) complete non-starter?
doesn't seem it to me..
Who's lost any argument? Not me my friend
tally ho!
I don't kill old ladies in my car, I've never had an accident - should my car be registered and insured?
So imagine if there was somebody who owned a bike, but only used it twice a year for example to make a 5 minute trip into town because 'they felt like it'... I don't know, maybe to buy a packet of skittles or a newspaper or something.
If a compulsory insurance scheme was introduced, how would it work? Would they need to pay for a year, even though they may not even ride their bike, but just in case they did? Or would they just not be allowed to do it?
If a compulsory insurance scheme was introduced, how would it work? Would they need to pay for a year, even though they may not even ride their bike, but just in case they did? Or would they just not be allowed to do it?
lol
Do you think bicycles can go as fast as cars?
Are bicycles as big or as heavy as cars?
As the answer to both of the above is an emphatic no, do bicycles have the same potential to cause harm to life and property as cars do?
No. So the insurance will be cheaper.
Not for people banned from driving a car though, who will also be banned from riding a push bike under your proposals...
So if a banned driver is caught riding a push bike on the road, what should happen to them? Treat them the same as if they are caught driving?
Soldato
oh god, not another cyclist vs driver thread. These are becoming like 9/11 threads. Can we put a ban on these as well? Same old arguments, different day.
You should spend more time reading my posts. Never have I said I would ban those who are banned from driving, from using a bike.
Man of Honour
Why would you ever need a license to ride a bike?
What the hell if something like that ever kicks off then I'll eat a hat.
Taxing cyclists is also the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
It's a pedal bike ffs.
What the hell if something like that ever kicks off then I'll eat a hat.
Taxing cyclists is also the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
It's a pedal bike ffs.
Caporegime
How much a year for a normal car, like a ford fiesta or something would the insurance be?
And as for numberplates, can't have them on bikes they'd slow cyclists down even more. You could fit bicycles with a chip, take note of the unique number on the frame or do lots of other things. But then when taxes go up to pay for this you'll get people that have posted in this thread moaning about it.
And as for numberplates, can't have them on bikes they'd slow cyclists down even more. You could fit bicycles with a chip, take note of the unique number on the frame or do lots of other things. But then when taxes go up to pay for this you'll get people that have posted in this thread moaning about it.
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Man of Honour
Fiesta? totally depends on the person being insured...could be £1k for a newbie, could be £250 for a 30yr old mother.
Caporegime
Hmmm, and if I wanted to insure my bike it'd cost me £150 a year.
Man of Honour
So what's your counter argument then?
I'm not even a cyclist and this kind of talk confuses me as to why it even came up to begin with.
What wear and tyre does a bike do to the roads that deserves a tax scheme for them? what emissions do bikes emit that deserves a tax? Are they going to force licenses to ride bikes onto children riding to school or students to college too?
Nonsense.