Season Ticket suspended by club

Rotty said:
the letter refers to 3.1 but does not say what that is
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3.1 Subject to clause 3.2, below, Season Tickets are issued for your sole use and you shall not sell, assign or transfer or lend the Season Ticket or the benefit of it to any other person without the prior written consent of the Club. The reference to selling the Season Ticket includes offering to sell a Season Ticket (including, without limitation, via an online auction website), exposing a Season Ticket for sale, making a Season Ticket available for sale by another and advertising that a Season Ticket is available for purchase. For the avoidance of doubt (and by way of example only) this Season Ticket may not be offered as a prize in any promotion or competition; transferred, lent or sold to any third party as part of a hospitality or travel package; given to a third party who agrees to buy some other goods or services; or used for any other commercial purpose, (all save as expressly authorised by the PL or the Club).


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Seems to me, lame as it is, they can remove your ticket because you didnt get written concent.
 
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Thing is though, surely they can look up your history with the club, see that you've had a season ticket for 23 years, and use a bit of common sense? I really do wonder who makes these ridiculous decisions sometimes.
 
FNGsam said:
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sponsors, etc regularly give away champions league match tickets to anybody, for example when a mate used to work for a company that got given tickets, he wasn't interested in football and used to pass them on to family members who were.

champions league works completely differently to season tickets afaik, the reason why you see tickets going for thousands on ebay for the final every year.
 
Oh I see. These were his season tickets though.

He gave us a sleeve that had 2 cards that looked exactly like bank cards with his name on one and some random name on the other.

He was planning on going but couldn't so sent an email round my mates office and he replied first.
 
so someone has gone to the trouble of scouting the seats, noticing that there are 2 males instead of 1 male and 1 female in the seats and then researched who should have been sat there, gone through the admin process of research and writing out? i doubt it.

where you sit, is it usually by the same people? if that's the case, i'd think it more likely that they're the one's who have tipped the office off.
 
FNGsam said:
Oh I see. These were his season tickets though.

He gave us a sleeve that had 2 cards that looked exactly like bank cards with his name on one and some random name on the other.

He was planning on going but couldn't so sent an email round my mates office and he replied first.
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i dont know how it works in england but in scotland i dont think you get champions league matches as part of your season ticket. you need to buy every match separately. because i have been to european games and im not a season ticket holder, i just bought the tickets out the official store in glasgow.

its most likely the rules regarding european games are different. or they are not policed as much.
 
cm1179 said:
so someone has gone to the trouble of scouting the seats, noticing that there are 2 males instead of 1 male and 1 female in the seats and then researched who should have been sat there, gone through the admin process of research and writing out? i doubt it.

where you sit, is it usually by the same people? if that's the case, i'd think it more likely that they're the one's who have tipped the office off.
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i did say this above, im amazed they have the resources and manpower to police this.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
i did say this above, im amazed they have the resources and manpower to police this.
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My guess would be they check a few random seats each match maybe? and as said above rely on people letting them know I guess.

edit: I don't know if this is correct, but my mate was telling me that with his Aresenal season tickets he gets 7 non league matches each year to go to, apparently this was the last. Either way I was absolutely chuffed to get a chance to see a champions league match before I went back to Aus, and club level as well! We got free beer at halftime haha
 
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Someone might simply have dobbed them in, someone who sits near who is a jobsworth and recognised it wasn't you, maybe your mate did something to get himself noticed and hasn't/won't tell you.

As for Arsenal, season tickets won't include champs league(though club level may be different, can't remember), but it works on a passcode system so when he probably bought tickets for the game they were on his membership cards, then when he couldn't go he just lets someone else use the cards.

When at uni there were a bunch of us who had red membership, when someone couldn't go we'd regularly get a ticket and let another friend take the card, no problem. Never had an issue with it. I would in most situations blame getting "caught" on whoever went doing something to get in trouble, like being a complete **** to someone who sits close by.

If they went for loads of people at one go though, they can probably just run cctv footage and compare people sitting in the seats from one game to another. In fact I wouldn't be surprised with modern face recognition software for a computer to do the bulk of the work and give people a good starting point to check for people using the wrong seat.

Bit arsey, but loads of people do have memberships and just tout every ticket they can get, a 23 year season ticket holder though, WAY harsh.
 
I think Arsenal might be different...ive used various season tickets that cant be used on the day by friends and never heard of any such thing. I would put this down to someone reporting it/holding a gripe maybe your friends were loud (lol) and got on someones nerves. would have thought if face recognition was in place it would be at the most expensive seated stadium considering its just built aswell.
 
birdysaver said:
I think Arsenal might be different...ive used various season tickets that cant be used on the day by friends and never heard of any such thing. I would put this down to someone reporting it/holding a gripe maybe your friends were loud (lol) and got on someones nerves. would have thought if face recognition was in place it would be at the most expensive seated stadium considering its just built aswell.
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ALl footie stadiums have a massive amount of cctv going on and have done for years, facial recog software is just that. It would be more like giving over a few weeks of footage to a firm to do it for them type situation than run it constantly.

Also if I was ultra cynical I'd say...... freeing up a bunch of tickets and increasing prices of new members would increase their income so maybe they have a reason to push out anyone they can. Increasing prices on 23 year vet's wouldn't go down nearly as well. Arsenal fans are already screwed out of every last penny so not much worth doing it to us :p

I was just spitballing though, as I and you've said, its more likely the person who used it pee's off a regular who makes a complaint. Thing is, too tired to check, I think they said they got rid of 600 season ticket holders recently which makes you think its something more widespread and intentional.

If I'd been able to take up my season ticket offer, I wouldn't complain about someone I knew wasn't a ticket holder even if they were a ****, I might say something if its a different person in that seat every single week and its clearly someone just touting their ticket for profit.
 
Probably just a warning shot across the bow from the club. Some unscrupulous types make a fortune flogging on their season tickets/ away stubs. You will probably get a stern warning. A bloke was in the Liverpool Echo not so long ago for something similar.
At worst though, they do have you bang to rights mate. Doubt it will come to that though.

Hold on- did I read that right and it was the Man U away game? That's a bit of an odd one! They must have got the CCTV from Man U and have literally scanned every seat to see if folks are sat where they should be. If so, the 'evidence' is shoddy at best- you could say you sat elsewhere because the stadium seating directions given to you by the Man U steward were incomprehensible due to his inability to speak in more than grunts :)
 
I live on the Isle of Lewis in Scotland and because of location Season tickets are shared all the time simply because travelling costs and time mean there is no way anyone could justify the expense or be able to go to all games. Its just normal practice.

It seems a helluva leap to go from "someone else used your ticket" to "you sold your ticket for profit"
 
My brother doesnt have a season ticket but he will regularly buy tickets and sell them on (and for a bit of profit as half the time he has to give tickets away for a big loss). Reason being that you need to buy tickets for several games in a season to then qualify for the first pool of tickets when a big champions league match comes about. It's far from ideal, but the only way he'd get tickets for the big games.
 
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