Second chances

JohnnyG said:
So he wanted to sue you for loss of earnings (fair enough) but when it transpired that there would be no loss of earnings he didn't pursue it?

Well he couldn't really pursure it as he hadn't really lost any money.
 
Phate said:
Driving outside of your ability generally means you don't have 100% control of the car.

Wrecklessness is driving at 90 through a 30 zone and not giving a toss about who else is on the road - which I can do with complete control of the car (but obviously I don't)- that is driving wrecklessly.

Lets not argue over semantics, you admitted the accident was your fault and thus avoidable.

As I said earlier, how would you know why his employer didn't renew his contract, they wouldn't admit it was because he'd been on the sick, it would look bad if they did. Also, bad backs are the oldest excuse going so they might've even thought he was taking the ****.
 
Phate said:
hmmm - I disagree.

As I said - I can quite easily drive my car with full control at stupid speeds round the local 30 zones as I know the roads very well - I would put a greater risk to everyone around me who isn't driving wrecklessly from overtakes etc.

Driving outside my ability however, that would be something like drifting round a sharp corner on wet tarmac in a FWD car - considering I've never done any driving like that that's when I would be outside of my ability and what the car does is luck.

I'd say both examples sound pretty wreckless...
 
ok now we know a little more..

You're the driver so you have a responsibility to everyone else in the car. (or was it involving his car as well? racing each other? or smt?)

Even if your insurers dont pay up (did you instruct them to admit liability or anything? because youve accepted that the accident was your fault) you should at least compensate him in some way.

You've accepted it was your fault so you're responsible and owe him some sort of compensastion surely? You cant just go "awww lets just forget about it m8 cheers"

Did you agree with him that it was your fault and that he has suffered from the result of your actions?
 
trojan698 said:
As I said earlier, how would you know why his employer didn't renew his contract, they wouldn't admit it was because he'd been on the sick, it would look bad if they did. Also, bad backs are the oldest excuse going so they might've even thought he was taking the ****.

He sent me a letter stating what happened - His employer said they weren't going to renew his contract as he wasn't good at the job.
 
Have you any other friends ;)


Invite him round, give him a piece of paper with an oxfam address on it, to save him money and tell him to **** off.

:o


Sorry. Just my opinion. He should have consulted you first. Also he got in the car of his own free will. When you were driving, if he thought you were going to fast/recklessly he should have said.


Dont waste time on him
 
Phate said:
His employer said they weren't going to renew his contract as he wasn't good at the job.

I figured that, but you're missing my point! They wouldn't admit they'd sacked someone for being on the sick.
 
Phate said:
There isn't one.

I asked what other people have done when faced with the same decision.
Most people would probably not drop a friend after injuring them in a car accident and getting the hump when their friend tries to claim compensation for lack of earnings due to the injury they caused, especially when the friend stops claiming when he finds out he hasn't lost anything.
 
Surfer said:
ok now we know a little more..

You're the driver so you have a responsibility to everyone else in the car. (or was it involving his car as well? racing each other? or smt?)

No - as I've said he was a passenger in my car.

Even if your insurers dont pay up (did you instruct them to admit liability or anything? because youve accepted that the accident was your fault) you should at least compensate him in some way.

Whilst I see what your saying it was an accident at the end of the day. Nobody knows when they are going to happen, we do as much as possible to prevent them but they do happen.

Plus after he claimed compensation and got complete jack if he hadn't of been a complete spangle about the whole thing and sent his parents round threatening me then maybe we would still be on talking terms.

You've accepted it was your fault so you're responsible and owe him some sort of compensastion surely? You cant just go "awww lets just forget about it m8 cheers"

If he hadn't of come across the whole thing with such an attitude (I had to ring the police as he was threatening me over text) then I would have offered to help.
 
cleanbluesky said:
Then why do you require the input of others? What value is it to you?


As said - curious.

I'm bored and I was wondering - all there is to it.
 
Phate said:
No - as I've said he was a passenger in my car.



Whilst I see what your saying it was an accident at the end of the day. Nobody knows when they are going to happen, we do as much as possible to prevent them but they do happen.

Plus after he claimed compensation and got complete jack if he hadn't of been a complete spangle about the whole thing and sent his parents round threatening me then maybe we would still be on talking terms.



If he hadn't of come across the whole thing with such an attitude (I had to ring the police as he was threatening me over text) then I would have offered to help.


Ahh things are making sense now. It sounds like you were driving just a little bit fast but nothing reckless. An unavoidable accident happens. (would it have happened if you were driving slower?) And now he is blaming you for his hardship and even threatening you etc.

He doesnt sound like a good m8 to me... your well off away from him.

You see its things like this you find out how good a m8 he was ehh. He should have just sucked it up and put it down to bad luck and got on with life.

Now if you were driving recklessly, on drunk/drugs etc and he was screaming for you to stop the car because he was fearing for his life but you ignored him and just laughed at him and then the accident occured then he is entitled to pursue you for a ton of damages. :D
 
Surfer said:
Ahh things are making sense now. It sounds like you were driving just a little bit fast but nothing reckless. An unavoidable accident happens. (would it have happened if you were driving slower?) And now he is blaming you for his hardship and even threatening you etc.

No - If I was driving slower the accident would not have occured.

Now if you were driving recklessly, on drunk/drugs etc and he was screaming for you to stop the car because he was fearing for his life but you ignored him and just laughed at him and then the accident occured then he is entitled to pursue you for a ton of damages. :D

exact opposite of what I was doing :)
 
I cant say any cases of mine, I find it hard to fall out with people, but the only person I really did fall out with was an old housemate, but I wouldnt give him a second chance, it wasnt something he did, it was everything, a stupid, hippocritical ****. Didnt realise as much until I moved in with him.

Phate said:
Well he couldn't really pursure it as he hadn't really lost any money.
Sounds like he was being a royal **** to me, sueing you personally for his own gratification, putting you through the ordeal of court and trying to take money of you that wasnt owed to him. Those are not the actions of someone who should be given a second chance. If any of my friends did this I would never talk to them again.
 
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i can't really tell you what I think of the case because I don't know all the details or know how strong your friendship was before. I'm also not sure who's to blame here but I will share my philosophy on friendship with you - it's a quote I heard a long time ago (can't remember where tho :( )and have lived by it since:

Friends are like parachutes - if they aren't there when you need them, you'll never need them again.
I have enough friends that I don't have to bother with people I can't trust.
 
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