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second x2 review

Dual gpu or not when the 2900xt came out it was a midrange card, the reason they didn't go for a highend version was due to heat and leakage so they opted for crossfire to compete in the highend. The x2 came at a time where they moved to a smaller process and the heat and leakege problems were dealt with. Its plainly obvious the x2 is basically a stopgap solution as many cards have been in the past with both companies.

Crossfire like sli is not a perfect solution so its obvious it will scale better in some games than others, people just seem to be expecting a constant 100% over a single 3870 but thats not possible, if it were then there would be no need for super expensive high end cards and people could just go and buy the midrange and slap another card in when they wanted a large fps bump.
 
TheRealDeal said:
It is essentially 1 card mate takes up around the same space as a gtx and beats it and also beats an ultra. Look at what happens on those graph's as the resolution goes up even in crysis the ultra is pegged back.
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It's one card but that card contains two GPU's. If a dual-GPU card can only just beat a single-GPU card, something is not right. The word inefficient springs to mind here.
 
I think it's that with double the price or more, people are expecting double performance, especially if there is already a competing single gpu product that offers nearly the same performance.

Matthew
 
Scougar said:
I think it's that with double the price or more, people are expecting double performance, especially if there is already a competing single gpu product that offers nearly the same performance.

Matthew
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Well the people that are expecting that clearly have never deal with multiple gpu's in a crossfire or sli config before, which is hard to believe because usually only enthusiasts will go for sli or crossfire and would normally be well informed about performance increases well in advance.
 
To many people are looking at the 2 gpu's and not considering that this card is cheaper and faster than an ultra and probably won't cost to much more than a gtx. Ati according to those reviews now have the performance crown back from nvidia with a cheaper card not bad going in my books even if it is using 2 gpu's on 1 board.
 
I was really hoping for something more, i don't want to see AMD fail, as that would be catastrophic for us, we had a taste of what Nvidia will do with zero competiton for 6 months when they released their 8 series, we do not want that again, id give up, id get a console for gaming, and just use PC for net if it ends up all Nvidia. :(

It is bad going when you look at it, they have had to use 2x GPU's to get the performance crown back from a single GPU that is over 1x year old tech, and its hardly doing it.
 
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LoadsaMoney said:
I was really hoping for something more, i don't want to see AMD fail, as that would be catastrophic for us, we had a taste of what Nvidia will do with zero competiton for 6 months when they released their 8 series, we do not want that again, id give up, id get a console for gaming, and just use PC for net if it ends up all Nvidia. :(
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I doubt very much they will fail, r600 was a blip on the radar and nothing more imo. The word going around that rv700 has already taped out and theyve begun to send samples to board vendors. Last i read a r700 varient was due for late Q2.
 
Loadsamoney when the r600 technology was released it was pretty obvious ati could not compete in this round now they are just using that technology to the best of there ability and doing pretty well with what they have. I would be very surprised if they cannot compete against nvidia with the r700 technology though.
 
Who gives a flying .... how many gpus are on one card?

Its price versus performance ffs!

If a card is cheaper and out performs another, it wins, no brainer.
 
TheRealDeal said:
Loadsamoney when the r600 technology was released it was pretty obvious ati could not compete in this round now they are just using that technology to the best of there ability and doing pretty well with what they have. I would be very surprised if they cannot compete against nvidia with the r700 technology though.
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The thing is in the highend the r600 is the first "bad" card theyve had for ages, x800 was good x1800 was good x1900 was good. r600 was delayed heavily and never panned out the way they wanted. Thats just the way of things but people just seem to see one "bad" product as a deathblow for some reason. Even saying it was a bad card stikes me as odd, to me its a solid midrange card with the only real drawbacks being the cooler and the power it sucks up.

Nvidia had the fx fiasco but people on forums seem to totally blank that like it never happened. I dont recall pitchforks and torches at the ready when that card struck the iceberg either.
 
What will happen to the other reviews now then, from the reputable places, Guru, Anandtech etc... will they redo them with the new drivers.

If this card is priced right it will be a cracker, its just were in Rip-Off UK, im expecting £300+.
 
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LoadsaMoney said:
What will happen to the other reviews now then, from the reputable places, Guru, Anandtech etc... will they redo them with the new drivers.
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Assuming its delayed, i can't see it though reviewers would hit the roof if they had to redo the whole thing. Near a certainty that the reviews were completed over the weekend.
 
Gerard said:
Assuming its delayed, i can't see it though reviewers would hit the roof if they had to redo the whole thing. Near a certainty that the reviews were completed over the weekend.
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Be a shame that, as when the 2900 was reviewed they used poor drivers, so that looked a lot worse than it was.
 
I am desapointed to. Thought it would be better. Price might be good now but after a couple of months usage you will spend more on electricity bill. It does not seem to much value if its not pulling the ultra apart in the majority and not losing out in any benchmarks.
 
Edleake said:
Who gives a flying .... how many gpus are on one card?

Its price versus performance ffs!

If a card is cheaper and out performs another, it wins, no brainer.
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Price is ther key, if the price is right, there is no doubt it will sell in droves, but this is rip-off UK, im expecting the worst on the pricing front.

I know theres been a few of us saying around £280 or less, but come on, lets be honest, were expecting £300 or more really deep down. :(
 
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Results are mixed but it a nice move from AMD to release this card. I never heard of those sites that are reviewing the card and as said i shall be expecting more known websites to post some reviews. For the price/performance this card offers i see many people getting them.
I see the drivers making this card pefrorm better at launch and in the future but i don't expect mericles.
 
If this is the performance it'll get not a good upgrade really for people who have GT's, GTS's or a 3870XT.
 
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