self-defence weapon or not?

[Aeleys]

So just how quickly are you going to be able to assess all of these factors at 4am in the morning after being woken up? How will you know that there aren't four huge men with weapons downstairs?

size has what to do with this???

anyway like i said previously this is purely speculation as situations can change quicker than the direction of the wind.

i was just giving for instance situations that may, or may not ever happen. why are you taking it to heart that i'm going to get robbed everyday and that i will DO exactly everything i have said?

baffling...

 

[sigma]

you assume i would shoot to kill, and that you know who the jury are, and what my current record is? funny.

You're assuming you would still be alive yourself. If they have a gun and you have just shot them I'm sure they will be more than happy to fire back.

Too many variables to be sitting at the top of the stairs with a crossbow. I hope for your sake that you live alone.

 

[Castiel]

you assume i would shoot to kill, and that you know who the jury are, and what my current record is? funny.

When you fire a weapon at someone that is always the possible outcome. There is no such thing as shoot to wound, you may intend to do so, but the reality is that you are just as likely to kill someone as injure them.

 

[Aeleys]

yeah and a wound to the leg can easily kill a person, as lots of chavs find out when they think sticking a little 3" blade into someone thigh is a "safe" way to stab them and it ends with the other person bleeding to death.

show me someone bleeding out from a crossbow bolt wound to the leg and ill agree.

knifes and 3" cuts are a different ball game. sorry

 

[sigma]

size has what to do with this???

anyway like i said previously this is purely speculation as situations can change quicker than the direction of the wind.

i was just giving for instance situations that may, or may not ever happen. why are you taking it to heart that i'm going to get robbed everyday and that i will DO exactly everything i have said?

baffling...

It is all purely speculation but the situation could happen tonight, if you hear a noise, would you pull out the crossbow?

I'm not taking it to heart. You said you'd pull out the crossbow. I'm just wondering why! Bed time anyway, let's hope I don't get broken into as I would like an undisturbed sleep.

 

[Aeleys]

You're assuming you would still be alive yourself. If they have a gun and you have just shot them I'm sure they will be more than happy to fire back.

Too many variables to be sitting at the top of the stairs with a crossbow. I hope for your sake that you live alone.

EXACTLY...way to many variables as i was giving examples. unless you lot have time machines or real crystal balls that tell you everything in specific detail of how things go?

people take things to heart so easy these days.

 

[Aeleys]

I'm not taking it to heart. You said you'd pull out the crossbow. I'm just wondering why! Bed time anyway, let's hope I don't get broken into as I would like an undisturbed sleep.

for DEFENSE did you forget the title of the thread....

sleep well.

 

[sigma]

for DEFENSE did you forget the title of the thread....

sleep well.

So you would shoot someone? Or would you be carrying out a risk assessment first? Is that whilst loading?



Night. Sleep tight!

 

[Aeleys]

So you would shoot someone? Or would you be carrying out a risk assessment first? Is that whilst loading?



Night. Sleep tight!

i'm glad you can see the funny side, guess you're not as uptight as i first thought seems like it's rather easy to wind people up on here...never noticed that much before

 

[D.P.]

you assume i would shoot to kill, and that you know who the jury are, and what my current record is? funny.

What if you miss their arm as they are running towards you and you shoot them in the torso? Even by accident, and even given the fact that they entered your house you still might find yourself in prison.

 

[Tefal]

i'm glad you can see the funny side, guess you're not as uptight as i first thought seems like it's rather easy to wind people up on here...never noticed that much before

really? you think anyone on here posting at 1 am actually gives a **** about what's said?


Hell I'll argue over weather the pope is secretly a puppet operated by Justin Bieber at this point.

 

[Castiel]

show me someone bleeding out from a crossbow bolt wound to the leg and ill agree.

knifes and 3" cuts are a different ball game. sorry

Bow hunting accident claims life of Mountain City man


A bow hunting accident claimed the life of a Mountain City man Saturday evening. Michael Todd Stout, 43, 920 A. Davis Lane, died from massive blood loss after an arrow accidentally pierced the calf area of his leg, according to the Johnson County Sheriff's Department.

JCSD Deputy Johnny Roberts responded to Davis Lane after a neighbor called reporting the accident at approximately 5:30 p.m. Roberts found Stout in the front seat of his vehicle not far from his home.

"It is determined that the victim was walking with (the) bow in his left hand with (the) arrow in (the) bow and had apparently tripped, jabbing the arrow into his left leg," Roberts' report states. Roberts determined Stout removed the arrow from his leg before walking nearly one mile down the mountain to his vehicle, where he constructed a tourniquet for the wound then drove approximately a half mile before passing out from blood loss. Because Stout was driving a manual vehicle, his car came to a stop, according to the police report.

Roberts stated Stout possibly remained in his vehicle between one to four hours before a neighbor found him. He was transported to the Johnson County Health Center where he died due to massive blood loss, according to Johnson County Coroner Willie Debord.

Foul play is not suspected in the case.

Stout is survived by his wife, Lisa Henson Stout, and two daughters, Jessica and Rebekah.

 

[Aeleys]

really? you think anyone on here posting at 1 am actually gives a **** about what's said?


Hell I'll argue over weather the pope is secretly a puppet operated by Justin Bieber at this point.

You mean to say he's not? well there goes my hopes and dreams

 

[Aeleys]

oh dear... i guess i didn't account for stupidity and was only referring to the person/people who would be laying at the bottom of my staircase

 

[Castiel]

oh dear... i guess i didn't account for stupidity and was only referring to the person/people who would be laying at the bottom of my staircase

The point is that if you sever the Femoral Artery then death is a very real outcome, and the nature of the femoral artery means that it is not actually that difficult to hit it with a penetrative weapon, especially in the thigh and depending on which section of the artery that is cut the victim can bleed out within minutes without immediate medical attention.

A crossbow bolt is very capable of doing enough damage to either the deep artery or superficial parts of the artery that could potentially lead to death very quickly. It is not that different from shooting someone in the thigh with a gun, although a bullet potentially can do more interior damage depending on the circumstances.

Basically there is no such thing as shoot to injure.......the minute you fire a weapon, whether it be a gun, crossbow or otherwise it has the potential to kill, and aiming for the thigh is definitely not going to mitigate that risk to any degree.

 

[kilohawk]

2 wrongs don't make a right legally. But they feel better....

It isn't two wrongs of equal amounts though. If a man (or woman) decides to forcibly enter your property, at night, what do they expect would happen?

They expect you to harm them as much as physically possible.

THIS is the reason why they enter at such a time, as they don't expect much confrontation!

The law is very outdated if we are not allowed to do this.

If the person did not make the very bad decision to enter the property (which they know is wrong to do), they would not be harmed...

weapons aren't a good idea, but my bed has very thick wooden lats under the mattress - jus' sayin'

 

[bainbridge]

I keep a Maglight on the landing, just in case there is a powercut.

 

[Aeleys]

The point is that if you sever the Femoral Artery then death is a very real outcome, and the nature of the femoral artery means that it is not actually that difficult to hit it with a penetrative weapon, especially in the thigh and depending on which section of the artery that is cut the victim can bleed out within miniputes without immediate medical attention.

A crossbow bolt is very capable of doing enough damage to either the deep artery or superficial parts of the artery that could potentially lead to death very quickly.

No one said it wasn't a possible outcome of death, but to be honest he only had himself to blame...plus the 4 or so hours of no help would not apply in a situation of what we are talking about

actually, not sure whats the going time for cops/medics to come to a house call these days? must be near enough that so i guess you was right!!! damn...and there was me thinking i was a know it all

i guess all the people who take things WAY too seriously on a forum wake up at around 12pm/1am...hmm must make a mental note of that at some point

 

[opstrat]

my dad has a sock of coins by his bed. i have a replica klingon batleth on my wall but tbh i probibly wouldnt have the balls to hit someone with a weapon.

this reminds me of a funny story i heard somewhare.

old guy in a country village phones police to say some thugs are in his shed.
police say they are busy attending something else and will get to it when they can.
the old guy, peed off, phones back a few minutes later and says to the police "its ok iv just shot him with my shotgun."
minutes later there is the helicopter overhead and police all over his back garden.
couldnt find anyone that was shot, the police ask the man 'u said u shot someone'
old man says 'and i thaught u said u were to busy.

i think it was a true story from a newspaper.

 

[Hanuki]

Rape alarm, loud and will easily scare them specially when they are trying to be as quiet as possible

A German Shepard, if no dogs can be kept under a agreement or something just get a triggered alarm system - CCTV - i dont know the correct term for them but a chain lock and a latch for the door - lol if there taking windows off like you said maybe look into how to take correct security measure for your windows dont rely on your landlord tbh with you as long as he getting your money at the end of the day he wouldn't give a flying **** he has insurance on the building i ashume - your personal processions are your responsibility and your responsibility to keep safe not his.

Nail gun?

Be prepared, have a plan