Selfishness!

dirtydog · 14 Dec 2006 at 10:54

kitten_caboodle said:
I just said she has a bad shoulder after a fall. She has no other issues around her health. She has the health and stability of someone a good 20 years younger and keeps fit and mobile. She has been independant for the last 60 years and doesn't intend to give that up. As for having no-one around, she lives in a village. If she couldn't open the door, the shopkeeper would open it for her. It's called compassion and customer service. I honestly can't believe the attitudes in this thread, most of you complaining about other people's 'selfishness'. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I do open doors for people and would happily help an elderly person - I'm just saying that a 90 year old who can't open a door maybe shouldn't go out on her own

kitten_caboodle · 14 Dec 2006 at 10:54

dirtydog said:
I do open doors for people and would happily help an elderly person - I'm just saying that a 90 year old who can't open a door maybe shouldn't go out on her own

it wasn't you I was referring to. And Basmic knows who it was

Ahh.. a good 'debate' to round off the morning. Most excellent

basmic · 14 Dec 2006 at 10:56

kitten_caboodle said:
As for having no-one around, she lives in a village. If she couldn't open the door, the shopkeeper would open it for her. It's called compassion and customer service. I honestly can't believe the attitudes in this thread, most of you complaining about other people's 'selfishness'. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves!

Ah now villages are special. Everybody knows when you last went to the toilet, and which hand you wipe your backside with.

Seriously, villages are nicer places. They tend to "eject" the people they don't like, or don't get on with. In a way, they are like one massive old folk's home.

Villagers are much nicer to people. Those who aren't decent, are probably well known.

As for the shopkeeper. Well would you buy from an impolite person? It's mostly about money.

basmic · 14 Dec 2006 at 10:57

kitten_caboodle said:
it wasn't you I was referring to. And Basmic knows who it was

Do I?

kitten_caboodle · 14 Dec 2006 at 10:58

basmic said:
Do I?

You're right about the village. It's like the place from the Wicker Man.

dirtydog · 14 Dec 2006 at 10:59

basmic said:
As for the shopkeeper. Well would you buy from an impolite person? It's mostly about money.

You cynic

Probably right though

basmic · 14 Dec 2006 at 10:59

kitten_caboodle said:
Ahh.. a good 'debate' to round off the morning. Most excellent

Out of interest do you have a partner? If so, how does he put up with a moody kitty? :eek:

basmic · 14 Dec 2006 at 11:01

kitten_caboodle said:
You're right about the village. It's like the place from the Wicker Man.

I know I'm right about the village - I used to live in one for about a week (I couldn't bear the peace), before moving out of my parents back into Darlington.

Gossip travels faster than greased lightning in villages.

Kell_ee001 · 14 Dec 2006 at 11:02

basmic said:
Out of interest do you have a partner? If so, how does he put up with a moody kitty?

Catnip?

Admiral Huddy · 14 Dec 2006 at 11:03

We're just so busy with our lives we become selfish.

Have all the the gadgets and time/labour saving devices actually made us better people. No, I don't think they have.. All it means is that we have more time to sits staring at a box.

kitten_caboodle · 14 Dec 2006 at 11:04

basmic said:
Out of interest do you have a partner? If so, how does he put up with a moody kitty?

He ignores me. Or buys me choccy.

dirtydog · 14 Dec 2006 at 11:05

Admiral Huddy said:
We're just so busy with our lives we become selfish.

Have all the the gadgets and time/labour saving devices actually made us better people. No, I don't think they have.. All it means is that we have more time to sits staring at a box.

I don't think selfishness is bad per se, quite the opposite. So long as it isn't taken to extremes where you don't do anything for anyone else ever.

basmic · 14 Dec 2006 at 11:06

kitten_caboodle said:
He ignores me. Or buys me choccy.

*turns back on kitten*

Sorry...did somebody say something? I'm sure I heard a faint meow...maybe it was Kellee... :eek:

kitten_caboodle · 14 Dec 2006 at 11:07

I do try to help people out, but it's got to the point now where I don't like to offer in case people are offended :/

I always, always say thankyou if someone holds open a door for me or anything. I think it's really nice when that happens

basmic said:
*turns back on kitten*

Sorry...did somebody say something? I'm sure I heard a faint meow...maybe it was Kellee...

Damn, i should have just mentioned the chocolate

Efour · 14 Dec 2006 at 11:09

Personally i hold a door open for somone because I do, i dont expect a reward or praise, I just do it because to me its the right thing to do, no matter who it is, Old dear or Chav Scum.

Lol maybe ive been brought up as a slave and only just realising it.

basmic · 14 Dec 2006 at 11:10

kitten_caboodle said:
Damn, i should have just mentioned the chocolate

Oohhh you can have some chocolate if you like. I can pop to Boots and get some special chocolate, that'll make your bowels as regular as Suffolk murderer.

me227 · 14 Dec 2006 at 11:12

Yeah I normally say thank you to myself when the person I hold a door open for doesn't say a thing. They generally don't notice but oh well who cares.

I wouldn't generally think to not hold a door open for someone, I just expect myself to do it.

If the person doesn't say thanks then no skin of my nose I don't care. When I was down in Kentucky I got some pretty big thank yous that made me feel pretty good about myself, i've never had that big a thank you since for something so simple and that was years ago now always a nice thing but I don't expect it.

I just think manners are important.

But what does get my goat is when i'm at a bar and the person who comes to the bar after me gets served first and doesn't even say to the bartender that I was there before them. I do it and sometimes get completly shocked looks.

Surfer · 14 Dec 2006 at 11:23

Admiral Huddy said:
Do you think people are becoming more selfish.

I have noticed more recently that people are so wrapped up with their own lifes that they are becoming more oblivous to their surroundings. Take cars for example, once people are inside then nothing and no one is more important than them getting from a to b. People on the trains will "scrum" through the doors to get a seat. . .

I opened the door for a woman at work this morning and she went past without even a whisper.. To busy listening to her iPod. Completely in another world..

Where has all the respect and politness gone? Does nobody say please and thank you anymore.

Has social deprevation taken over that we are no longer able to communicate or act in a civil manner.

Discuss:

Yes.... its called escape from reality. Been meaning to write a book about it for a while... People all have their ways to escape from reality. Closeting yourself in your warm, 'controlled environment' vehicle away from everyone out there....safe. Its a mad mad world but the simple fact that existing 'out there' without any sort of cubby hole to hide in is tough!

There is a luck of trust between people nowadays. Actual talking to someone takes a bit of effort as well.

Society it seems finds every more complicated ways for us to communicate WITHOUT actually communicating (ie ways for us to get what we want as efficiently as possible without having to interact with a real person)

In fact today when you are going about your business how many genuine interactions with another person did you have? Our society is a society of the self (selfish?) and maximizing the gain for that self usually by monetary means.

dont like it but thats life...

daveyj27 · 14 Dec 2006 at 11:26

Surfer said:
Yes.... its called escape from reality. Been meaning to write a book about it for a while... People all have their ways to escape from reality. Closeting yourself in your warm, 'controlled environment' vehicle away from everyone out there....safe. Its a mad mad world but the simple fact that existing 'out there' without any sort of cubby hole to hide in is tough!

There is a luck of trust between people nowadays. Actual talking to someone takes a bit of effort as well.

Society it seems finds every more complicated ways for us to communicate WITHOUT actually communicating (ie ways for us to get what we want as efficiently as possible without having to interact with a real person)

In fact today when you are going about your business how many genuine interactions with another person did you have? Our society is a society of the self (selfish?) and maximizing the gain for that self usually by monetary means.

dont like it but thats life...

Interesting stuff, but a simple courteous "thank you" really isn't that difficult to initiate and carry out.

Admiral Huddy · 14 Dec 2006 at 11:34

Surfer said:
Society it seems finds every more complicated ways for us to communicate WITHOUT actually communicating (ie ways for us to get what we want as efficiently as possible without having to interact with a real person).

#claps hands at this chap#

That is a very interesting point. As I said, techonology hasn't made us better people. We are loosing our social and behaviour skills because of the lack of direct communication with other people. Text is a prime example of this.

daveyj27 said:
Interesting stuff, but a simple courteous "thank you" really isn't that difficult to initiate and carry out.

It is for people who have lost all social skills becuase of social deprevation. As in the Surfers post, for example.