Sell PS5 preorder to buy Zen 3

Mr Oblong · 14 Oct 2020 at 21:54

pc-guy said:
I got a 20% code that can shave £56 off the 280 CPU. It is within mainstream retailer but the code is account specific.

auction site runs some decent discount at time that can enable the price hit even lower. Or just bid on auctions.

Fair dues, it's interesting what's happening to prices as Zen 3 approaches.

pc-guy · 14 Oct 2020 at 22:03

Mr Oblong said:
Fair dues, it's interesting what's happening to prices as Zen 3 approaches.

Not gonna drop that much. I was hoping it will but the launch price isn’t at the original MSRP so the differential is going to be quite large. Therefore no chance of further drops. Zen2 is already better value compared with the same intel SKU.

you got to catch a break on discount code or bargain for 48hrs etc.

Mr Oblong · 14 Oct 2020 at 22:33

pc-guy said:
Not gonna drop that much. I was hoping it will but the launch price isn’t at the original MSRP so the differential is going to be quite large. Therefore no chance of further drops. Zen2 is already better value compared with the same intel SKU.

you got to catch a break on discount code or bargain for 48hrs etc.

If anything I've actually seen things creeping up in the last few weeks.

pc-guy · 14 Oct 2020 at 22:43

Mr Oblong said:
If anything I've actually seen things creeping up in the last few weeks.

It’s presales season. Prices creep up then retailer do 10% or 15% off those inflated prices. In reality it is 5-10% off. just look good and also compliant with trading standard and advertising rules.

Mr Oblong · 14 Oct 2020 at 23:05

pc-guy said:
It’s presales season. Prices creep up then retailer do 10% or 15% off those inflated prices. In reality it is 5-10% off. just look good and also compliant with trading standard and advertising rules.

Aye, Black Friday incoming and all that.

Guest2 · 15 Oct 2020 at 09:20

So if i get something like an msi meg x570 unify motherboard for £250, will this support a 3700X, 3900X, 5900X, 5950X?

The unify appears to be what im after - has reasonable onboard sound (Realtek acl2200) so no DAC / internal soundcard required, has multiple NVMe slots and Wifi.

I then need RAM (£220) and a new case (~£100 or are cases more?)

I then drop in a 3700 / 3900 and can get a 5900 / 5950 at a later date along with a cooler or just use the generic one that comes with the 3700X / 3900X

CPU - Ryzen 9 5950X - £750
CPU - Ryzen 9 5900X - £530
CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X - £220 (2nd hand)
CPU - Ryzen 9 3900X - £350 (2nd hand)

CPU HSF / other hybrid cooler for 5950X / 5900X - £100

mickyflinn · 15 Oct 2020 at 09:31

Guest2 said:
So if i get something like an msi meg x570 unify motherboard for £250, will this support a 3700X, 3900X, 5900X, 5950X?

The unify appears to be what im after - has reasonable onboard sound (Realtek acl2200) so no DAC / internal soundcard required, has multiple NVMe slots and Wifi.

I then need RAM (£220) and a new case (~£100 or are cases more?)

I then drop in a 3700 / 3900 and can get a 5900 / 5950 at a later date along with a cooler or just use the generic one that comes with the 3700X / 3900X

CPU - Ryzen 9 5950X - £750
CPU - Ryzen 9 5900X - £530
CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X - £220 (2nd hand)
CPU - Ryzen 9 3900X - £350 (2nd hand)

CPU HSF / other hybrid cooler for 5950X / 5900X - £100

You could get a new 3700x with the meg unify if you use the cashback promotion from msi, they have to be purchased together in one transaction from participating retailers.

https://uk.msi.com/Promotion/back-to-school-2020#AMD-Motherboard

The x570 tomahawk is a cheaper option.

Mr Oblong · 15 Oct 2020 at 09:59

Guest2 said:
So if i get something like an msi meg x570 unify motherboard for £250, will this support a 3700X, 3900X, 5900X, 5950X?

You can absolutely do that. If the mobo has BIOS flashback (or is manufactured since ~September) then you can go straight to the 5000 series.

pc-guy · 15 Oct 2020 at 10:34

cheaky buggers trying to lure people buying new motherboard with CPU....damn them...DAMN THEM ALL.

Guest2 · 15 Oct 2020 at 10:42

mickyflinn said:
You could get a new 3700x with the meg unify if you use the cashback promotion from msi, they have to be purchased together in one transaction from participating retailers.

https://uk.msi.com/Promotion/back-to-school-2020#AMD-Motherboard

The x570 tomahawk is a cheaper option.

Thanks. So £63 cashback with the Unify and 3900X.
It says its a ‘prize’ is that actual money back into bank account or some dodgy prize like £63 to spend on msi items when spending over £3000

Going 2nd hand is still cheaper but guess this option is there too

mickyflinn · 15 Oct 2020 at 11:00

Guest2 said:
Thanks. So £63 cashback with the Unify and 3900X.
It says its a ‘prize’ is that actual money back into bank account or some dodgy prize like £63 to spend on msi items when spending over £3000

Going 2nd hand is still cheaper but guess this option is there too

It says cashback prize it's just a term, not like a prize draw.

Desnt say nothing about vouchers etc. But Not sure if it's a cheque or straight in the bank.

Have a good read of the terms to clarify yourself.

Did you check qualifying retailers.

Absolutely Clueless · 15 Oct 2020 at 23:32

mickyflinn said:
It says cashback prize it's just a term, not like a prize draw.

Desnt say nothing about vouchers etc. But Not sure if it's a cheque or straight in the bank.

Have a good read of the terms to clarify yourself.

Did you check qualifying retailers.

You have to give your bank details if you look at the form/instructions, unless I misread it. Seems slightly odd. Plus, you have to wait 30 days before submitting the claim (to ensure you don't return the items), in which time they could pull the promotion. Seems a bit sketchy to me.

mickyflinn · 15 Oct 2020 at 23:47

Absolutely Clueless said:
You have to give your bank details if you look at the form/instructions, unless I misread it. Seems slightly odd

How is that odd, How do you think there going to send you the money without knowing your bank details ?

By Pidgeon

Absolutely Clueless · 16 Oct 2020 at 00:05

mickyflinn said:
How is that odd, How do you think there going to send you the money without knowing your bank details ?

By Pidgeon

I'd prefer other means, that require less of my info. Hey ho, nothing to worry about, as I don't think I'll be using the promotion in the end.

Vogon · 16 Oct 2020 at 06:30

Check the small print, the cashback offer from msi is actually steam vouchers if you read it.
Back to the OP question what cpu do you have now ?

Guest2 · 16 Oct 2020 at 07:07

Vogon said:
Check the small print, the cashback offer from msi is actually steam vouchers if you read it.
Back to the OP question what cpu do you have now ?

I noticed that too about steam vouchers. Offer seems sketchy and rubbish anyway for the sake of £50.
I currently have a i7 [email protected], 16Gb RAM, 2080Ti

Edit, wanting to keep CoD MW above 90fps in downtown area and all others @ 3440x1440, all highest settings

koooowweeee · 16 Oct 2020 at 08:05

Guest2 said:
I then need RAM (£220)

What ram are you buying? You can get 16gb 3600mhz for £70/80

Vogon · 16 Oct 2020 at 08:05

Is Cod using the same engine as Warzone ?
I dont know how comparable it is but I am mostly sat at around 100 fps if I render the game at 4k (in game scaling), at my smaller monitor's native of 2560x1440 its around 140, that's with all eye candy maxed and what little RTX effects there are on.
I do have a little higher clockspeed (4.7) and 2 cores more but 2 threads less, no idea if that matters in Cod.

What framerate are you getting now ?
I would have thought the cpu wouldn't be holding you back that much at that res, but unsure as some games do utilize more cores to better effect.

Vogon · 16 Oct 2020 at 08:20

Guest2 said:
So if i get something like an msi meg x570 unify motherboard for £250, will this support a 3700X, 3900X, 5900X, 5950X?

The unify appears to be what im after - has reasonable onboard sound (Realtek acl2200) so no DAC / internal soundcard required, has multiple NVMe slots and Wifi.

I then need RAM (£220) and a new case (~£100 or are cases more?)

I then drop in a 3700 / 3900 and can get a 5900 / 5950 at a later date along with a cooler or just use the generic one that comes with the 3700X / 3900X

CPU - Ryzen 9 5950X - £750
CPU - Ryzen 9 5900X - £530
CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X - £220 (2nd hand)
CPU - Ryzen 9 3900X - £350 (2nd hand)

CPU HSF / other hybrid cooler for 5950X / 5900X - £100

Looking at that route, unless you are doing a lot of rendering and productivity tasks, IMO no point in more than 8 cores needed for gaming.
so if you want new gen a 5800x £429 or if looking to save by using current gen 3700x £290
Msi Tomahawk X570 board will support all you above listed cpus @ £210
Ram 16gb of 8 pack 3600 can be had for £128
Cooler to suit case AIO for around £130
A decent case for £100 - £150 maybe less depending on what you want.

Or you could wait for a nice mobo/cpu bundle to land in MM

koooowweeee · 16 Oct 2020 at 08:55

Vogon said:
Is Cod using the same engine as Warzone ?
I dont know how comparable it is but I am mostly sat at around 100 fps if I render the game at 4k (in game scaling), at my smaller monitor's native of 2560x1440 its around 140, that's with all eye candy maxed and what little RTX effects there are on.
I do have a little higher clockspeed (4.7) and 2 cores more but 2 threads less, no idea if that matters in Cod.

What framerate are you getting now ?
I would have thought the cpu wouldn't be holding you back that much at that res, but unsure as some games do utilize more cores to better effect.

Games like cod and battlefield need more cores. It's that, that is slowing him down.