Sell PS5 preorder to buy Zen 3

Guest2 · 16 Oct 2020 at 08:56

koooowweeee said:
What ram are you buying? You can get 16gb 3600mhz for £70/80

Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit @ £218.99 inc VAT

koooowweeee · 16 Oct 2020 at 08:57

Guest2 said:
Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit @ £218.99 inc VAT

Way over priced that stuff. Do you need 32gb ? If your just gaming they you don't need 32gb

Guest2 · 16 Oct 2020 at 08:59

Vogon said:
Is Cod using the same engine as Warzone ?
I dont know how comparable it is but I am mostly sat at around 100 fps if I render the game at 4k (in game scaling), at my smaller monitor's native of 2560x1440 its around 140, that's with all eye candy maxed and what little RTX effects there are on.
I do have a little higher clockspeed (4.7) and 2 cores more but 2 threads less, no idea if that matters in Cod.

What framerate are you getting now ?
I would have thought the cpu wouldn't be holding you back that much at that res, but unsure as some games do utilize more cores to better effect.

COD is fine 90fps+ most if the time. Just a few parts where it drops like on the Picadilly map near the busses.
Warzone some areas like Downtown drop to 50fps, if i turn diwn all graphics and resolution it doesnt help fps much / at all. It appears to be just the amount if buildings causing the fps hit

Guest2 · 16 Oct 2020 at 09:02

koooowweeee said:
Way over priced that stuff. Do you need 32gb ? If your just gaming they you don't need 32gb

Future proof. Not now but would prefer to get 1 32gb stick as the board supports 32x4.
Spending £1000+ i want this to last ~6-8 years as my current bundle has. The bundle i have now cost me £350 and has held out well.
In 3 or 4 years 32GB RAM might be one the norm

koooowweeee · 16 Oct 2020 at 09:09

Guest2 said:
Future proof. Not now but would prefer to get 1 32gb stick as the board supports 32x4.
Spending £1000+ i want this to last ~6-8 years as my current bundle has. The bundle i have now cost me £350 and has held out well.
In 3 or 4 years 32GB RAM might be one the norm

If you want it to last that long I would wait a little longer. I'll bet some new motherboards will be out for zen3 or whatever intel has to offer.

Still a little over priced that ram. I would have a look around. You can get the same specs for £40/50 less on 32gb.

Guest2 · 16 Oct 2020 at 09:19

Vogon said:
Looking at that route, unless you are doing a lot of rendering and productivity tasks, IMO no point in more than 8 cores needed for gaming.
so if you want new gen a 5800x £429 or if looking to save by using current gen 3700x £290
Msi Tomahawk X570 board will support all you above listed cpus @ £210
Ram 16gb of 8 pack 3600 can be had for £128
Cooler to suit case AIO for around £130
A decent case for £100 - £150 maybe less depending on what you want.

Or you could wait for a nice mobo/cpu bundle to land in MM

Thanks

Unify isnt much more than £210. The Realtek ACL1200 on the Tomahawk vs ACL1220 on the Unify. Im looking at best onboard audio possible so i dont end up having to spend £200 on an external DAC / soundcard

Guest2 · 16 Oct 2020 at 09:20

koooowweeee said:
If you want it to last that long I would wait a little longer. I'll bet some new motherboards will be out for zen3 or whatever intel has to offer.

Still a little over priced that ram. I would have a look around. You can get the same specs for £40/50 less on 32gb.

I’m always best waiting

but everyone said to wait for Zen 3...then wait for Intels offering / Zen 4...then wait for...

Vogon · 16 Oct 2020 at 09:46

Yes, there is always something better around the corner

Ah I see, then if the audio is important to you its worth the extra as long as the board is as good otherwise (can't see it not being, just havent read/watched any reviews).

SnR3 · 16 Oct 2020 at 09:56

jigger said:
I’m not sure about 1440, but looking at the AMD numbers I think 5900X will beat a 3600 by a lot more than 5%

In 1080p for sure. In 1440p margins are insignificant among all processors.

2Thumbs · 16 Oct 2020 at 10:08

Guest2 said:
Future proof. Not now but would prefer to get 1 32gb stick as the board supports 32x4.
Spending £1000+ i want this to last ~6-8 years as my current bundle has. The bundle i have now cost me £350 and has held out well.
In 3 or 4 years 32GB RAM might be one the norm

Considering ram is one of the easiest things to swap out:

Buy a 16GB kit now and upgrade in a couple years to 32GB assuming that's the norm as prices will be cheaper due to higher demand. Future proofing is a fools errand. Buy what's suitable now and upgrade later.

queamin · 16 Oct 2020 at 10:23

Guest2 said:
I noticed that too about steam vouchers. Offer seems sketchy and rubbish anyway for the sake of £50.
I currently have a i7 [email protected], 16Gb RAM, 2080Ti

Edit, wanting to keep CoD MW above 90fps in downtown area and all others @ 3440x1440, all highest settings

I looked at it and the cpu's and MB's are £20 to £30 more than you can get them from other places.

I noticed the B550 boards were around £30 more than if you searched around and picked them up separate as some had deals on MB's.
The Cpu's prices were all over the place.

queamin · 16 Oct 2020 at 10:27

2Thumbs said:
Considering ram is one of the easiest things to swap out:

Buy a 16GB kit now and upgrade in a couple years to 32GB assuming that's the norm as prices will be cheaper due to higher demand. Future proofing is a fools errand. Buy what's suitable now and upgrade later.

Just before DDR5 launches you should be able to pick up some cheap DDR4 ram if you don't wait to long, as if it runs short supply the price will sky rocket.

koooowweeee · 16 Oct 2020 at 12:44

Guest2 said:
I’m always best waiting but everyone said to wait for Zen 3...then wait for Intels offering / Zen 4...then wait for...

Yeah I know

but the new motherboards shouldn't be a long wait.

Mr Oblong · 16 Oct 2020 at 20:23

SnR3 said:
In 1080p for sure. In 1440p margins are insignificant among all processors.

Except heavy CPU stuff, such as MSFS which benefits from CPU anywhere below 4K (and even then...).

Mr Oblong · 16 Oct 2020 at 20:24

queamin said:
I looked at it and the cpu's and MB's are £20 to £30 more than you can get them from other places.

I noticed the B550 boards were around £30 more than if you searched around and picked them up separate as some had deals on MB's.
The Cpu's prices were all over the place.

Yeah, sometimes the 'deal' is less of a deal if you're savvy to the other prices available by shopping widely and independently.

Absolutely Clueless · 17 Oct 2020 at 22:24

koooowweeee said:
Yeah I know but the new motherboards shouldn't be a long wait.

new mobos for what? Rocket Lake?

McGraw · 17 Oct 2020 at 23:27

koooowweeee said:
Way over priced that stuff. Do you need 32gb ? If your just gaming they you don't need 32gb

I didn’t need 16gb when I built my about to be replaced PC.

steering people away from 32gb today is poor advice.

if I’d have listened to people like you in 2014 I would have been on an i5 with 8gb and forced to upgrade a while back.

koooowweeee · 18 Oct 2020 at 00:48

McGraw said:
I didn’t need 16gb when I built my about to be replaced PC.

steering people away from 32gb today is poor advice.

if I’d have listened to people like you in 2014 I would have been on an i5 with 8gb and forced to upgrade a while back.

I tried to explain about 8gb and 4 cores to people a long time ago, even when that's all intel had. But the use of 8 core and 16gb has been used for many years.

But right now for gaming, what will 32gb get you?

Guest2 · 18 Oct 2020 at 10:07

koooowweeee said:
But right now for gaming, what will 32gb get you?

Probably not a sausage, but what about in 5 years?

koooowweeee · 18 Oct 2020 at 10:48

Guest2 said:
Probably not a sausage, but what about in 5 years?

Yeah definitely. But not for a year or 2.

Nothing wrong with slashing out but saying just get 16gb is definitely not poor advice. It's not like it can't be added at a later date, it will be cheaper in 2 years time. So if anything, saying get 32gb now for gaming is poor advice.