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ElRazur said:
I think you might have misunderstood me or i didnt make myself clear enough. Let me try and break it down. If the example i used was the other way round i.e white being the victim, i would still make this thread to highlight the internal problems we have and then say we should sort it out before blaming migrants on things which are secondary problems imo.
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British people commit crimes = British scumbags

Immigrants who come here and commit crimes = immigrants scumbags.

Unfortunatly we can't send British criminals anywhere other than prison. Britain is their home and we are stuck with them. Not the case with Johnny Foriegner.

So when you say shouting "send them all back" etc etc isn't the answer, with immigrant criminals it clearly is the answer. Can't abide by our laws then **** off back to whatever 3rd world ****hole you're from. I Don't care if your life is at risk, when you get back to said 3rd world ****hole and all the other rubbish excuses they make up to stay here.

You're partially right in saying we should sort our own house out before blaming guests for totally ruining it. But making even more sense would be to clean our house fully before admitting guests, some of who will try to ruin it
 
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wordy said:
You're partially right in saying we should sort our own house out before blaming guests for totally ruining it. But making even more sense would be to clean our house fully before admitting guests, some of who will try to ruin it
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Exactly what I was saying, just waiting for El to tell us to think outside of the box now :/
 
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A white man was stabbed 13 times, bundled into a car and dumped somewhere whilst burning in petrol by a group of Asian men. :mad: :mad: Grr RA RAAA! GRR!! :mad:. So what is your point?

I think he got off lightly with a haircut :)
 
Raikiri said:
Exactly what I was saying, just waiting for El to tell us to think outside of the box now :/
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Your point been...? Are you telling we aint quick to dish out blame just because it is easy to do so? By the way there isnt any box.
 
ElRazur said:
Your point been...? Are you telling we aint quick to dish out blame just because it is easy to do so? By the way there isnt any box.
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My point being you seem to justify any misguided idea you have (which is almost always completely one sided with no compromise) by telling the other person to think outside of the box thinking that it is a valid argument.

Of course we are quick to blame them, we would have to take a closer look at ourselves and sort out our problems if they were not here. So either way you look at it immigrants do cause problems, even if it is not their fault.
 
ElRazur said:
Your point been...? Are you telling we aint quick to dish out blame just because it is easy to do so? By the way there isnt any box.
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I genuinely don't understand what you are saying here?
 
ElRazur said:
I would still use the same approach - We have internal problems let us not blame the poles or migrants. :)
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And when a British person commits a crime we blame the british person, when poles or migrants commit a crime we blame the poles or migrants. You seem to be insinuating we blame crime on poles and migrants, that simply isn't true....and is a bit insulting
 
It's sad that this makes the news given the amount of fatal knife attacks that occur regularly.
 
There are a lot of scumbags out there (black, white, muslim, asian, whatever) and they give other people a bad name by commiting acts like this. Unfortunately stuff like this has always and will always happen.

No amount of education is ever going to change the fact that someone is a different colour, or supports a different football team, or is a different religion or whatever. The fact is we will never all be the same, and narrow minded people will always dislike something about someone that is different to their social group/society.

Racism will never go away. Its a shame, but I don't think it will ever go away.

Just my views, I usually keep out of these threads because its pointless discussing them as the problem will never go away! :(

Until we are all clones or something ;) !

Paul
 
I'm sure there was a report released a couple of weeks ago that just over 50% of murders comitted in racist attacks are done black on white.

I don't know why you all go on about racism.
Racism is a deep instinct of the human race and is practised by EVERYBODY.
Racism keeps the world ticking and makes countries get one over on another.
Racism is perfectly OK as long as you don't start using your fists or worse.
The worst racists are those that say "I'm not racist but ...".
If I went for a job at an Asian firm I wouldn't expect to get it if another Asian turned up and he'd got no qualifications.
Thats the way of the world - get over it because you won't change it.
However, theres nothing wrong with trying to get along just before you take sides again.
 
There are white British people that are racist. Should sweeping generalisations be made about them. No.

There are black British people that are racist. Should sweeping generalisations be made about them. No.

There are Asian British people that are racist. Should sweeping generalisations be made about them. No.

Why is it so hard to understand?
 
subjected to verbal racial abuse by four young white males and then punched and kicked to the ground.
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So it was important to include they were white because............

Racism comes from all cultures, not just black on white, or white on black.
 
Raikiri said:
My point being you seem to justify any misguided idea you have (which is almost always completely one sided with no compromise) by telling the other person to think outside of the box thinking that it is a valid argument..
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Woah, how is my idea misguided? (that we are quick to blame migrants when have our own problems or something like that). Anyhow think outside the box is like saying approach the problem from a different perspective. Also i dont know you are qualified to label what is a valid arguement and what is not.

Of course we are quick to blame them, we would have to take a closer look at ourselves and sort out our problems if they were not here. So either way you look at it immigrants do cause problems, even if it is not their fault
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Aint that part of what i was stressing all along? Sure they might cause problem but perhaps we should initiate the move to fix our own back yard first then we will be in a better position to blame the migrants and send them back?
 
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wordy said:
And when a British person commits a crime we blame the british person, when poles or migrants commit a crime we blame the poles or migrants. You seem to be insinuating we blame crime on poles and migrants, that simply isn't true....and is a bit insulting
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Again im misunderstood or perhaps i didnt make myself clear enough. What im saying is simple - Fix home first then blame anyone who comes to mess it up after.

I aint insinuating anything but saying what i see here.
 
I hope the neds get caught as I'm sure they were aware of the particular distress this offence would cause to a Sikh.
However I saw some stats last week showing that more racially motivated attacks are committed against white people in the UK than against racial minorities (it was broadcast on the BBC while discussing the case of the white youth in Glasgow killed by the Asian gang).

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The most recent analysis shows that in 2004, 87,000 people from black or minority ethnic communities (BME) said they had been a victim of a racially motivated crime. In the same period, 92,000 white people said they had also fallen victim.

Focusing on violent racial attacks, 49,000 BME were victims. Among whites, the number was 77,000.



Of those that involved wounding 4,000 were BME. Among the white population it was 20,000.
 
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