Seymour Hersh, Nordstream pipeline, Substack

[Quartz]

As with all these lunatic conspiracy theories it fails the basic test that too many people had to have been in on it.

 

[GIBURROWS]

As with all these lunatic conspiracy theories it fails the basic test that too many people had to have been in on it.

What are the other lunatic conspiracy theories?

 

[Efour]

Biden said he would do it then it blew up.

There's really no conspiracy.

Sweden isn't publishing it's results on the Investigation.

Nothing to see here, no USA produced explosives here, no sir.

 

[sityeuropa]

As with all these lunatic conspiracy theories it fails the basic test that too many people had to have been in on it.

So U.S blowing up the pipeline is a lunatic conspiracy theory? Is this what you are saying?

 

[delta0]

Really noticed a lot more pro Russia posts on here. Take a look at yourselves in the mirror.

 

[sityeuropa]

Really noticed a lot more pro Russia posts on here. Take a look at yourselves in the mirror.

You don't have to be pro Russian to acknowledge the U.S took out a pipeline.

 

[delta0]

You don't have to be pro Russian to acknowledge the U.S took out a pipeline.

A disinformation campaign focused on controversial topics, commonly political, is one of primary aims of pro Russian trolls. It’s a well known tactic on social media and attempts to create division between people. Social engineering and disinformation is a major tool used to achieve this.

 

[sityeuropa]

A disinformation campaign focused on controversial topics, commonly political, is one of primary aims of pro Russian trolls. It’s a well known tactic on social media and attempts to create division between people. Social engineering and disinformation is a major tool used to achieve this.

Are you saying Biden quotes are disinformation?

 

[Craterloads]

Wouldn’t really be surprising, the US have done far worse.

 

[Minusorange]

A large number of people believed the US orchestrated 9/11 so blowing up a Russian gas pipe is pretty tame in comparison and way more believable given the war in Ukraine and Russias threats to the West over gas, if anything the US did the world a favour with the tough love approach of weening us off Russian gas if there were indeed responsible for it

 

[VincentHanna]

To acknowledge the US "did it" means you are happy to arrive at a verdict without evidence.

Could they (America) be behind it's destruction?
Absolutely.

Is it likely?
Not really.

Is there evidence?
No

 

[Zatoichi.uK]

To acknowledge the US "did it" means you are happy to arrive at a verdict without evidence.

Could they (America) be behind it's destruction?
Absolutely.

Is it likely?
Not really.

Is there evidence?
No

Apply that same logic to Russia doing it. There is even less evidence and no motive. Why would Russia damage their own infrastructure rather than simply limit supply further?

 

[mid_gen]

You don't have to be pro Russian to acknowledge the U.S took out a pipeline.

There are no facts to be acknowledged, only theories lacking any evidence.

You do very much behave as a pro-Russian actor by trying to misrepresent theory as fact.

 

[bazzabear]

The point is that there is no evidence to say who did it yet just wild speculation.

Russian surface vessels and submarines were recorded in the area in the run up to the events. However, likely that western ships were too. Until there is hard evidence published, not he said/she said, not speculation, not a nut job on a Youtube video it will never be "open and shut", just a large question mark.

Could you go and post this in the missing woman thread?

On the other hand - don't. You're wasting your time here, and you'd be wasting it there. Nice try though!

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Apply that same logic to Russia doing it. There is even less evidence and no motive. Why would Russia damage their own infrastructure rather than simply limit supply further?

Why would they do it, many reasons such as to get people to blame the US
Why would they damage their own infrastructure, dunno, they have done it before, see above.
They have done far worse however, like to have been proven to kill their own citizens in a false flag attack in order to justify military action

 

[potatolord]

I think it's unlikely Russia blew it up. I just don't see they had a strong enough reason to do it, and there were good reasons for them not for do it.

I think it is more likely the US did it, for the reasons others have given above. I don't see any strong reason for them not to do it, other than bring caught in the act.

Frankly, the "OMG false flag by Russia" line is just idiocy.

Waiting to be called a russbot troll now.

 

[esmozz]

I personally believe the U.S. probably did it too. It’s worth pointing out that it’s possible to believe that and not be supportive of Russia in any way shape or form. I think people sometimes miss that.

 

[sityeuropa]

Waiting to be called a russbot troll now.

Don't forget metion your overtime comrad.

 

[Allnamestaken]

So U.S blowing up the pipeline is a lunatic conspiracy theory? Is this what you are saying?

Well its not established fact is it.

You talk about it as if its a CERTAIN THING when it isn't all you have is Biden saying that they will shut it down. This does not EQUATE evidence of doing the action itself.

Videos discussing it are not evidence. Evidence is actual proof that they were involved, hard evidence, physical or otherwise.

You keep asking us questions but you already believe what you believe and there is no changing that
Even people on fringe conspiracy websites are not 100% on whether the US did it or whether what Biden said constitutes an actual motive.

 

[GIBURROWS]

Christ, a lot of emotional panic attacks in here isn't there.

To not believe or trust the media doesn't make anyone pro Russia(or Hitler as that's next from the loons) but it's all very convenient for the yanks.....