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Very nice.

Also I see Silverstone revised it slightly at some point, my cables for the front panels didn't have that hole to go into, they just clipped straight onto the PCBs (and often got in the way of the HDDs as a result).
 
Wow case internals look well different , swap the fans out for something better if cooling is prob, got panaflo's in mine, Silverstone's push very little air.
 
I should mention that I took the fan assembly out in these pictures, there is another 80mm one angled at the expansion slots and a mounting hole for one in the top of the case. I also have raptor that will sit in the lower 5.25" bay in a Zalman enclosure rather than being mounted in the bottom.
 
So I managed to finish building it this week. I modified one of the SATA Power cables on the Corsair PSU. It has 3 SATA power plugs but it didn't reach to all 3 devices when I plugged in 2 of them so I removed the connector and crimped it closer to the first one, this saved me running another cable for 1 device and creating more of a mess. I did quite well, just the one SATA power cable and a single PCI-E cable from the PSU.

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Ok strange problem, I didn't reinstall Windows 7 after swapping the motherboard and I'm wondering if it is to blame for this problem. It keeps rebooting randomly whilst idle or under low load such as browsing. Playing the UT3 demo on max settings or running the Prime95 torture test don't do anything to it, it runs flawless which makes me think it's not the temps.

Update: It's been rebooting again, I'm running Prime 95 on one core and it seems to be preventing it from restarting randomly whilst using the computer.
 
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Ok strange problem, I didn't reinstall Windows 7 after swapping the motherboard and I'm wondering if it is to blame for this problem. It keeps rebooting randomly whilst idle or under low load such as browsing. Playing the UT3 demo on max settings or running the Prime95 torture test don't do anything to it, it runs flawless which makes me think it's not the temps.

Update: It's been rebooting again, I'm running Prime 95 on one core and it seems to be preventing it from restarting randomly whilst using the computer.

What kind of temps are you getting at the moment? I'm looking into a build much the same as yours.
 
What kind of temps are you getting at the moment? I'm looking into a build much the same as yours.

Well the problem has been solved now, it was the Northbridge chipset that wes hitting 96 degrees causing the reboots. It's mainly due to the built in GeForce 9300 and crappy passive heatsink. Running Prime95 or a game stopped the crashing as it caused the CPU fan to spin up, creating more airflow over the northbridge. The machine runs hotter than it would in an ATX case as the airflow is more restricted.
 
Well the problem has been solved now, it was the Northbridge chipset that wes hitting 96 degrees causing the reboots. It's mainly due to the built in GeForce 9300 and crappy passive heatsink. Running Prime95 or a game stopped the crashing as it caused the CPU fan to spin up, creating more airflow over the northbridge. The machine runs hotter than it would in an ATX case as the airflow is more restricted.
This seems to be a common problem on the NVidia 9300 motherboards. A recent thread http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18037025 was discussing a similar situation on a Zotac 9300 ITX. As a rule, it proves sufficient to re-sit the heatsink using a thin layer of high quality thermal paste.
 
As a rule, it proves sufficient to re-sit the heatsink using a thin layer of high quality thermal paste.

Yeah, I've ordered a Zalman northbridge cooler and some Arctic Silver to replace the ASUS one. The ASUS one had a piece of aluminium with a logo on that was simply glued to the top of the heatsink, removing that dropped the temperature a few degrees. It looks like it's made out of copper but I think it's just plated aluminium as it does a poor job at cooling.
 
I replaced the 10cm high heatsink with a very noisy 40mm fan on my mobile processor (478) in my m-itx setup (T2600) with this zalman heatsink and watched the temperatures drop loads. There is a 80mm fan as exhause for the entire case which includes a passively cooled 8400gs and the CPU idles at 38....
I think they are a great buy. just make sure you have some ventilation in the case.

betaspin's idea of using a 40mm fan isn't a bad one, but they aren't quiet.
 
If one has the space, nothing seems to be able to beat a Thermalright HR-05 for passive northbridge cooling. The Noctua NC-U6 comes very close in tests, and is smaller but, unfortunately, has been discontinued. I was very close to buying one for my SG05+9300 ITX system from a US ebay vendor for about £30 delivered, but decided against it at the end, as my MCP temperature has never managed to exceed 69C (after 1h of FurMark).
 
I'll have a play around with a few things, my OcUK order should have been here today but it didn't arrive. With the Royal Mail strikes I don't think i'll see it until next Tuesday and that's being optimistic.

I think a big part of the problem is that MCP is sitting right behind the GPU on the 8800 GTS OC which is at around 70 degrees anyway. It seems to be in the worst place possible, the airflow from the case fans slightly miss it and it just sits outside the range of the PSU fan.
 
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Hi guys.

This is aimed at the Sugo users here. What sort of temps are you normal experiencing with cpu idle and max load. ??

I just built a system using a Sugo SG02 with an i7 920 , DFI X58 MATX mobo, 6GB DDR3 1600 , ATI 4870. Love the build but it seem to be pretty hot. Was wondering if anyone else experienced this with the sugo. ??

Thanks in advance.

McstylisT
 
Well I removed the ASUS heatsink and cleaned up the MCP with some Akasa TIM cleaner. I then installed the Zalman heatsink using some Arctic Silver, the temps have dropped by about 20 degrees on the MCP, it's sitting at 75 now which is a lot better than 95 and all the random crashing.

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It is surprising that the Zalman performs so well given its low weight. It seems to be able to make much better use of the limited airflow from the cpu cooler than the stock heatsink though.
 
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