Shave my balls, bigot!

[hurfdurf]

It really isn't though. Children are being brainwashed into thinking this crap is normal, and no doubt many of them are now confused about themselves simply because of the biased, far left teachers that are pushing them in that direction.

Just like children were brainwashed into thinking being gay is normal, and look how that has ended the human race because now all children are gay and it's illegal to be straight.

 

[FoxEye]

I am far too busy with lesson planning, marking and teaching course content to have time to brainwash any kids...

I'm guessing that you would be more likely to refer a kid to the school's counsellor, who in turn might refer the kid to a gender reassignment specialist.

We know the end result of the process because there are stats to show it. We know that there is a massive rise in kids being sent to these places and a rise in the use of puberty blockers amongst school kids.

 

[FoxEye]

Just like children were brainwashed into thinking being gay is normal, and look how that has ended the human race because now all children are gay and it's illegal to be straight.

Plenty of gay people here have said they don't want to die on the hill of trans activism. And plenty said they disagree with it entirely.

Actually radical trans ideology would see more and more (maybe all?) gay people being convinced to "transition" instead of being allowed to be gay.

 

[VincentHanna]

Actually radical trans ideology would see more and more (maybe all?) gay people being convinced to "transition" instead of being allowed to be gay.

Don't be so ridiculous.

 

[FoxEye]

Don't be so ridiculous.

You and @hurfdurf both use these kinds of replies often.

It's not an argument, it's denial.

"It's not happening."
"Don't be absurd."

And yet it is happening because there are a) stats to prove it and b) experiences being shared that demonstrate it

So you lack credibility when resorting to this kind of posting.

 

[hurfdurf]

You and @hurfdurf both use these kinds of replies often.

It's not an argument, it's denial.

"It's not happening."
"Don't be absurd."

And yet it is happening because there are a) stats to prove it and b) experiences being shared that demonstrate it

So you lack credibility when resorting to this kind of posting.

Link me the credible trans lobby that is campaigning to force gay people to change gender please. I've never heard of such an organisation.

 

[VincentHanna]

Chances are he will find a tweet from some nobody with 2 retweets and that'll be his evidence.

 

[RDM]

I'm guessing that you would be more likely to refer a kid to the school's counsellor, who in turn might refer the kid to a gender reassignment specialist.

We know the end result of the process because there are stats to show it. We know that there is a massive rise in kids being sent to these places and a rise in the use of puberty blockers amongst school kids.

If only we had a school counsellor...

I haven't seen the stats, have you got a link? I like data.

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

You and @hurfdurf both use these kinds of replies often.

It's not an argument, it's denial.

"It's not happening."
"Don't be absurd."

And yet it is happening because there are a) stats to prove it and b) experiences being shared that demonstrate it

So you lack credibility when resorting to this kind of posting.

I'm guessing that you would be more likely to refer a kid to the school's counsellor, who in turn might refer the kid to a gender reassignment specialist.

We know the end result of the process because there are stats to show it. We know that there is a massive rise in kids being sent to these places and a rise in the use of puberty blockers amongst school kids.

Bolding mine. You use these kinds of replies often.

It adds nothing, it's tedious, it posits that your views are global, and it's nonsense. And you're now arguing with a teacher so roll out those 'guesses' and 'we know's because that will work out well, won't it?

 

[Caracus2k]

Link me the credible trans lobby that is campaigning to force gay people to change gender please. I've never heard of such an organisation.

Chances are he will find a tweet from some nobody with 2 retweets and that'll be his evidence.

There's somewhat a dearth of reliable information as the Trans lobby has a handy self defence mechanism of branding anyone who challenges their ideology 'transphobic' which had can severe consequences for peoples carers....


But the cracks are starting to show

Governor of Tavistock Foundation quits over damning report into gender identity clinic

The trust running the country’s only NHS gender identity service for children is under fire for dismissing a damning internal report that branded it “not fit for purpose”.

Marcus Evans, one of the governors of The Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust has resigned, after accusing its management of having an “overvalued belief in” the expertise of its Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) “which is used to dismiss challenge and examination”.

Evans’s decision to part company with the London-based trust, after a 35-year association, will intensify scrutiny of the service which has found itself in the eye of a storm as thousands of young people considering transitioning to another gender seek its help.

Some parents who contacted the Observer have accused the service of “fast-tracking” young people into changing gender, a charge strongly rejected by the service.

Conversely, it has also faced complaints of lengthy waiting times for access to its services and drawn-out assessment periods which the service insists are crucial to understand a person’s needs.

The service has been struggling to contain the fallout from an internal report by Dr David Bell, written in his capacity as then staff governor, which warned that “the GIDS service as it now functions [is] not fit for purpose and children’s ends are being met in a woeful, inadequate manner and some will live on with the damaging consequences”

In his report, which was submitted to the trust’s board earlier this month and whose findings were first reported in the Observer last year, Bell expressed concern that the service was failing to fully consider psychological and social factors in a young person’s background – such as whether they had been abused, suffered a bereavement or had autism – which might influence their decision to transition. Such views are dismissed by many transgender rights activists who believe they play little, if any, part in a person’s desire to transition.

According to the trust, a review of Bell’s claims by its medical director, Dr Dinesh Sinha, “did not identify any immediate issues in relation to patient safety or failings in the overall approach taken by the service in responding to the needs of young people and families who access its support. As in any review of this nature, it did identify areas for improvement and made several recommendations. The trust’s chief executive is tasked with developing an action plan for how these will be implemented.”

The trust’s 15 governors, who hold its board to account, last week gave their support for it to act on the recommendations. But Evans, a psychoanalyst, subsequently resigned.

“In my 40 years of experience in psychiatry, I have learned that dismissing serious concerns about a service or approach is often driven by a defensive wish to prevent painful examination of an ‘overvalued system’,” he complained in his resignation email.

He added: “I do not believe we understand what is going on in this complex area and the need to adopt an attitude which examines things from different points of view is essential. This is difficult in the current environment as the debate and discussion required is continually being closed down or effectively described as ‘transphobic’ or in some way prejudicial.”

The trust said that it was “confident that Dr Sinha, with oversight from a non-executive board member and a governor, has conducted a thorough and fair review of the issues raised”. It said it intended to publish Sinha’s report and the action plan in due course.

As a Former Dean of Harvard Medical School, I Question Brown’s Failure to Defend Lisa Littman

This week’s controversy surrounding an academic paper on gender dysphoria published by Brown University assistant professor Lisa Littman—brought on by the post-publication questioning of Dr Littman’s scholarship by both the journal that published it, PLOS One, and Brown’s own School of Public Health—raises serious concerns about the ability of all academics to conduct research on controversial topics.

Gender dysphoria—the clinical term used to describe a condition in which one’s sense of gender identity diverges from one’s biological sex—is an important issue that cries out for more research. In the case of children who assert a transgender identity, clinicians, researchers, school officials and other interested parties face profound, life-altering decisions regarding treatment. As a physician, endocrinologist and medical researcher, I have a professional interest in the topic. But the biology, psychology and treatment of gender dysphoria is not the focus of this article. Rather, I herein consider the reaction to Dr Littman’s survey research, which explored the reportedly growing phenomenon by which clusters of socially connected teenage girls, some beset by autism spectrum disorder and other mental health challenges, suddenly express feelings of gender dysphoria apparently without having experienced these earlier in life, as is more commonly the case. Dr Littman’s preliminary research suggested that this often occurs after heavy exposure to social-media content extoling the benefits of gender transition. Whether the results of this descriptive survey study will be confirmed and extended will require much additional research.

The fact that Brown University deleted its initial promotional reference to Dr Littman’s work from the university’s website—then replaced it with a note explaining how Dr Littman’s work might harm members of the transgender community—presents a cautionary tale.

Increasingly, research on politically charged topics is subject to indiscriminate attack on social media, which in turn can pressure school administrators to subvert established norms regarding the protection of free academic inquiry. What’s needed is a campaign to mobilize the academic community to protect our ability to conduct and communicate such research, whether or not the methods and conclusions provoke controversy or even outrage.

Parent reports of adolescents and young adults perceived to show signs of a rapid onset of gender dysphoria

Conclusion
This descriptive, exploratory study of parent reports provides valuable detailed information that allows for the generation of hypotheses about factors that may contribute to the onset and/or expression of gender dysphoria among AYAs. Emerging hypotheses include the possibility of a potential new subcategory of gender dysphoria (referred to as rapid-onset gender dysphoria) that has not yet been clinically validated and the possibility of social influences and maladaptive coping mechanisms. Parent-child conflict may also explain some of the findings. More research that includes data collection from AYAs, parents, clinicians and third party informants is needed to further explore the roles of social influence, maladaptive coping mechanisms, parental approaches, and family dynamics in the development and duration of gender dysphoria in adolescents and young adults.

 

[VincentHanna]

That does not, in any way, address hurfdurf's demand for evidence that a trans lobby is forcing gay people to change gender.

 

[Caracus2k]

That does not, in any way, address hurfdurf's demand for evidence that a trans lobby is forcing gay people to change gender.

You rather obtuse sometimes Vince.

The trans lobby pressurises the medical community to conform to the early medicalisation of supposed 'trans' indicators in children. The medical/research community under fear of censure and career ending consequences compiles and adopts policies of only ever affirming a path towards medical transitioning without exploring whether other psychological/ physical issues may be at play.

Attempts at research to establish what's actually going on is suppressed.

Of course some of the aforementioned supposed 'trans' indicators may be rather similar to one shown in young children who go on to be gay.

Hence gay children may be being guided down a medicalised, irreversible path to transgenderism that will ultimately fail to reflect their actual sexuality and gender expression.

 

[G-MAN2004]

I am far too busy with lesson planning, marking and teaching course content to have time to brainwash any kids...

Are you a biased, far left teacher though? If not, clearly it wasn't aimed at you...

I'm talking about schools like that one in Brighton which has something like 70 pupils under the age of 16 who identify as either trans or gender fluid. We all know what's going on there. They are clearly being pushed in this direction.

You only have to spend a bit of time in certain trans groups on the Internet to see that pushing children in this way is a very real aim for some radical trans people.

 

[hurfdurf]

You rather obtuse sometimes Vince.

The trans lobby pressurises the medical community to conform to the early medicalisation of supposed 'trans' indicators in children. The medical/research community under fear of censure and career ending consequences compiles and adopts policies of only ever affirming a path towards medical transitioning without exploring whether other psychological/ physical issues may be at play.

Attempts at research to establish what's actually going on is suppressed.

Of course some of the aforementioned supposed 'trans' indicators may be rather similar to one shown in young children who go on to be gay.

Hence gay children may be being guided down a medicalised, irreversible path to transgenderism that will ultimately fail to reflect their actual sexuality and gender expression.

As I asked before, please link this trans lobby and their stated goals. At the moment all you've done is show a newspaper article depicting one persons complaints about a specific treatment centre.

I want a link to the trans lobby that is forcing this on kids just like the gay lobbies of the 80's forced kids to be gay.

 

[RDM]

Are you a biased, far left teacher though? If not, clearly it wasn't aimed at you...

Aren’t we all?

I'm talking about schools like that one in Brighton which has something like 70 pupils under the age of 16 who identify as either trans or gender fluid. We all know what's going on there. They are clearly being pushed in this direction.

Is that school indicative of all schools? While I have seen the story I am somewhat wary of the spin put on it. I can imagine quite a few kids identifying as gender fluid if the questions are asked in certain ways with few if any wanting to chop off their bits. My daughter finds prescribed gender roles irritating as it doesn’t fit who she is it doesnt mean she has any desire to undergo surgery.

You only have to spend a bit of time in certain trans groups on the Internet to see that pushing children in this way is a very real aim for some radical trans people.

Is this the norm or is it just a very few outspoken people? I am going to guess on the latter. Shall we ascribe the most radical views with the norm?

 

[Junglist]

Just to add into the discussion regarding schools. I've worked in a regular state school, a Girls school turned Academy and now I'm working in an alternative education school.

None of those places have ever tried to normalise this gender fluidity. The teach acceptance but that's about it from my experience. (Not a teacher, IT Manager)

 

[VincentHanna]

Weirdly, 3 people in my friendship group went on to become teachers - 1 primary and 2 secondary.

They are just normal people, they aren't pushing any agendas. The mother of one of those, recently stood for the conservatives in local council elections, though my friend is certainly more centralist than her parents.

 

[ttaskmaster]

NVM

 

[inogen]

You only have to spend a bit of time in certain trans groups on the Internet to see that pushing children in this way is a very real aim for some radical trans people.

You do this?

 

[G-MAN2004]

Just to add into the discussion regarding schools. I've worked in a regular state school, a Girls school turned Academy and now I'm working in an alternative education school.

None of those places have ever tried to normalise this gender fluidity. The teach acceptance but that's about it from my experience. (Not a teacher, IT Manager)

Weirdly, 3 people in my friendship group went on to become teachers - 1 primary and 2 secondary.

They are just normal people, they aren't pushing any agendas. The mother of one of those, recently stood for the conservatives in local council elections, though my friend is certainly more centralist than her parents.

"biased, far left teachers" =/= every single teacher in the entire country

You do this?

No, but I've seen enough screenshots and archive links to know it is happening. They jump on little kids like vultures, telling them to disregard anything their parents say and to go through with life changing decisions without any thought. And if they show any sort of hesitation, they get hounded.