Soldato
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Also, Sheff is packed with fanny.
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Haha well there is that too how could I forget
Economically speaking, Leeds is in a different league to Sheffield. There are many more jobs opportunities, particularly where high net value added industries are concerned. The public transport isn't great besides a bit of a local rail network and buses, but road links and provision is pretty good. Wider connectivity is good, and the central station is very well located (so is Sheffield's).
Really, I'd say the only things Sheffield wins on is access to countryside, with the Peak District being next door, friendliness of people, and property prices. Other than that, pretty much everything else is better in Leeds.
But then if we're considering these two cities, why not Manchester? As far as jobs, retail, entertainment and local transport goes, you're looking at the best in the country outside of London (from a broad brush perspective. Places always have niches).
Really, I'd say the only things Sheffield wins on is access to countryside, with the Peak District being next door, friendliness of people, and property prices. Other than that, pretty much everything else is better in Leeds.
But then if we're considering these two cities, why not Manchester? As far as jobs, retail, entertainment and local transport goes, you're looking at the best in the country outside of London (from a broad brush perspective. Places always have niches).
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Manchester is becoming an expensive hole these days. Every business owner has gone crazy now the likes of the BBC have moved up.
Paid £5 for a pint last Friday, wasn't even a nice bar. If you are looking for value for money, avoid Manchester! Anything cheap is ****, and everything else is stupid expensive.
I've visited Leeds more than Sheffield, but I do like Sheffield. Leeds has more nightlife if that's what you are after
Paid £5 for a pint last Friday, wasn't even a nice bar. If you are looking for value for money, avoid Manchester! Anything cheap is ****, and everything else is stupid expensive.
I've visited Leeds more than Sheffield, but I do like Sheffield. Leeds has more nightlife if that's what you are after
To give you an idea of my attitude to house buying/living, I had to Google ROI.
That didn’t come into the equation, I’d lived in SE London all my life, then bought a house in Welling, Kent, maybe 8 miles from Tower Bridge when I became serious about the girl who is now my wife.
Being a Black Cab driver, this meant that I had to leave the house by 06.15 to avoid traffic to get into where the work was, or leave at the time I preferred, and sit in a **** load of it before anyone hailed me, then have the same hassle getting home.
This drove me nuts, and as soon as I heard about the 30 houses being built back in my neck of the woods, I jumped at the chance to get back to civilisation.
I soon got the message about buying in the right place, at the right time, we moved in in January 1985, and in September a local estate agent told me that he could get me £115,000 for it if I wished to sell.
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Great result. Are you ever tempted to just sell up and move north or even abroad?
I have friends who have done well out of the boom, not quite the return you have however as other houses have increased they are technically no better off and are actually stuck as they can't afford to move up the ladder unless they move further afield.
I could do, and probably should do, no disrespect whatsoever, but the north has zero attraction for me.
I have a lot of family in France, and speak the language, and the thought of Toulouse or Bordeaux has appealed for ages, but my wife has the dreaded English disease, bonjour, bon soir, bon nuit, merci and s’il vous plaît, and that’s it, anything more than that, and it’s JEAN! where are you?
e.g. She takes a British size 5 or 6 in shoes, she’ll see shoes in a shop window in Lille that she likes, and I’ll drum it in to her, just point, and ask for trente huit, or trente neuf s’il vous plaît.
She’ll go in, point, look like she’s cracked it, then call out, “Jean, I think she’s asking what colour, how do you say brown?”
Thing is, purely accidentally, I’m in a blinding place, cul-de-sac, no through traffic, no undesirables, 3-4 min walk to a subway stop, same to nearest bus stop, 8-10 minutes to London Bridge, so even staying in London and down sizing doesn’t really appeal.
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both great Sheffield has the edge for me but my family are from Sheffield. Leeds and Harrogate are super nice though.
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Leeds is an awesome city with tons to do. Just stay away from certain areas and you'll be right as rain. Lived here the majority of my life and I still find new things to see and do here, plus transport to rest of the country is pretty good for the most part.
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I think the issue is that the "city centre" area (inside the A61/Hanover Way?) is rather large and you need to know where to go for the usual city centre places. You can't just roll out of the train station (located on the east side of the city centre) and be there as some people expect. As you say its quite a weird proclamation really.
They've been pumping a lot of money recently into areas such as the "The Moor" on the south side. You can walk up from there to Pinstone Street, through to the Peace Gardens, Fargate, Leopold Street and surrounding areas including the City Hall, Cathedral and Crucible Theatre. Then there's West Street which is a bit more a young persons scene. The tram runs from west street straight to areas like Valley Centertainment (Google link), which is a food/cinema/bowling entertainment complex. The Cineworld is located here and is pretty good although a bit more expensive if you simply want to watch a 2d movie, but they have tech like "LASER" IMAX, which only exists here and in Empire, Leicester Square in the UK. You can take the tram a little further to Meadowhall for that "all under one roof" shopping mall/eating feel. In a slightly different direction there's Crystal Peaks (like a mini Meadowhall) /Drakehouse Retail Park, which is nice if you live around that area although if traveling from the centre you'd realistically go to Meadowhall instead.
I don't live in either but I moved up north in 2012 and I often go to Leeds and Sheffield, I have a few friends scattered in both cities too and personally my next move will be into Leeds. Sure it has some crappy places on the outside but so does York and people think York is quite and peaceful.
It depends on your life style too, but I now prefer Leeds to London.
It depends on your life style too, but I now prefer Leeds to London.
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London is a ****hole. Why wouldn't someone do it.
It's not a ******** is it? Perhaps it's not to your own personal taste, but it's one of the world's premier cities....
yeh thats fine and all like i love both but im more just worried about the crime rate and which place i will feel safer walking down the road in you know?
amazing! bristol is a great place too. what areas in leeds should be avoided though?
Harehills, Beeston and Gipton are all best avoided. Armley is borderline, as are parts of Kirkstall (although mostly it's lovely).
What's your budget and what size place do you need?
Another dumb uneducated post with zero reasoning behind his opinion.
I often think that the reason that they say that London is a **** hole, is because
they cry themselves to sleep at night, wishing that they could afford to live here.
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Not me. I’m happy in Sheffield with my hugely successful business, penthouse duplex and supercar thanks.
If you tried to buy today, you wouldn’t be able afford anything like you have now. You were blessed on the timing front. Don’t agree with people calling London a hole though, bit of a broad brush stroke.