Sherlock - Series 2 - BBC

If it's all from Watson's point of view, why did we see Sherlock's little freak-out at the end of The Hound of the Baskervilles? The one he didn't admit to anyone?

The books might be his view, but I don't buy that the episodes are. And anyway, I'm fairly sure contradicting what viewers have actually seen is one of the big no-nos of TV mysteries. Otherwise, what's the point?

Actually, Sherlock was never on the rooftop, Watson was imaging that too. He was already under the influence of the drug and Sherlock convinced him to think that he was up there.

It's up there with "it was all a dream" as a cop out.
 
Andrew Scott (Jim Moriarty) are too bloody fantastic.

Andrew Scott was outstanding in the last episode.

He's been outstanding in every scene, he's played the character to perfection. I really hope they haven't killed him off, as he's so good at the part.
 
The acting throughout is fantastic, can't think of a bad regular character.

I was well annoyed they changed the actress that played Mycroft's assistant, she was awesome in the first series :(
 
He's definitely dead. He died in the books, so he's definitely dead.

Am I the only one that think's Moriarty isn't dead? Blanks and fake blood? Holmes never actually checked him. Didn't show his body being taken away, or buried.

I was skeptical given that him committing suicide was so out of the blue but thats how it goes in the story as said above and there really is no other conclusion other than the body being Moriarty and Sherlock pulling a fast one. Especially if you consider that at no point does anyone mention Moriarty being dead. Would've been a perfect opportunity to have Richard Brook be announced as missing too surely.
 
If it's all from Watson's point of view, why did we see Sherlock's little freak-out at the end of The Hound of the Baskervilles? The one he didn't admit to anyone?

The books might be his view, but I don't buy that the episodes are. And anyway, I'm fairly sure contradicting what viewers have actually seen is one of the big no-nos of TV mysteries. Otherwise, what's the point?

Actually, Sherlock was never on the rooftop, Watson was imaging that too. He was already under the influence of the drug and Sherlock convinced him to think that he was up there.

It's up there with "it was all a dream" as a cop out.

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This episode has been played much more on the 'Watson's point of view' as the episode opens with him explaining what has happened. Which is just what I've said?

The other episodes haven't felt as if they're playing up to this as much. They mention Watson's blogging though.

I agree that is well what could have happened, I thought Watson was drugged earlier too.
 
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This episode has been played much more on the 'Watson's point of view' as the episode opens with him explaining what has happened. Which is just what I've said?

The other episodes haven't felt as if they're playing up to this as much. They mention Watson's blogging though.

I agree that is well what could have happened, I thought Watson was drugged earlier too.
Ugh. My point was that if you're going to start bringing hallucinogenic drugs AND scenes that are entirely one character's POV, you can basically make up any storyline you want, and the mystery of trying to figure out the solution is completely lost.

That was what I was trying to point out with my "theory" of what happened - not that I really thought this was the answer, but that basically anything was possible if you start to liberally use the above two factors. Hell, why not have Sherlock the one infected by the drugs, and the entire episode was imaginary? Where does it end?
 
Ugh. My point was that if you're going to start bringing hallucinogenic drugs AND scenes that are entirely one character's POV, you can basically make up any storyline you want, and the mystery of trying to figure out the solution is completely lost.

That was what I was trying to point out with my "theory" of what happened - not that I really thought this was the answer, but that basically anything was possible if you start to liberally use the above two factors. Hell, why not have Sherlock the one infected by the drugs, and the entire episode was imaginary? Where does it end?

Yes, but the "clever" part is that Watson hasn't realised is that he was drugged and thought he saw Sherlock die.

Its not like they drugged him, stuck him in a room and just told him a story over and over again.

But its faking a death what exactly do you expect, jump off a building, he lands on something soft, puts a different body there, has to make the only real witness believe he saw something else.


Not really sure why people are talking about it being "3 films" and therefore a lot somehow. Firstly its got a very small cast, easy/cheap locations. They aren't shutting down whole street's to do scenes with loads of extra's most of the time, a lot of it is two guys talking in a room, with only a couple of "stars" talent cost is low and 90 mins is only 2x 45min american shows, considering your average 22 ep season in america, 6 ep equivalent is pretty pathetic all told.


On the acting, most people are pretty good in it, Moriaty I'm torn on, either he's brilliant or crap, I think its the voice more than anything, they've got someone who you just can't really take seriously and they keep putting him in utterly ridiculous roles as the fake boyfriend and the actor.

Also in the book was Lestrades boss supposed to come across as completely retarded?


Lastly, still irked by the not interviewing the kid nor coming up with any theory on how he might have been framed. Nor why a genius who the kid had seen would go in to interview her, nor the rather poor reasoning of faking everything to get away with it. He deems them all his intellectual inferiors, how does faking Moriarty and getting away with it well, do anything for him. He's solving crimes he doesn't know about which is interesting, or faking crimes and not getting caught by cops he considers stupid, it makes no sense, there is no puzzle or mystery involved so where is his motive....... none at all.
 
His motive was generated by stupid people.
They questioning his actual motives was all the motiv that was needed.
Jealously, a nice base human emotion.

As for the kid, she screamed went catatonic, they said she had not spoken since, the other events unfolded very very swiftly, and with him running thecops never thought to requestion their actions.

The one bit that struck me was the bullet in the head, I didn't see that coming.
 
Just watched the third episode, thoroughly enjoyed the series overall even if the plan in episode 3 didn't make much sense. The main one for me was Moriarty's whole plan which hinges on the fact that Sherlock had hired him, when his brother, and by extension the British Government know for a fact that he didn't!
I can just about ignore that though.....just about

I was in 2 minds about the performance of Moriarty but have come to the conclusion that he was brilliant
 
Just to say it seems they are rerunning Sherlock from the start on BBC Three right now - should be on iPlayer later :)

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Only turned the telly on to watch Sherlock and all that's on is bloomin Tennis. New season pushed back to next Friday now :(
 
Doh i shoulda looked at the episode title, i thought it was meant to be a new season starting tonight :o
 
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