They're legally entitled to own cars, doesn't stop the Govt having a database of who owns them
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They're legally entitled to own cars, doesn't stop the Govt having a database of who owns them
Yeah because guerilla warfare is so easy *cough* iraq & afghanistan *cough*.
But cars aren't an essential part of the checks and balances of the Republic of the United States of America. Jesus. It's not complicated. The President doesn't have all the power because his power is limited by Congress and the Senate, and they don't have all the power because they're checked by an armed populace. That way you can't be in a situation where any one person has all of the power and they can start abusing it. The entire country is built around that. Or you can remove an essential part of the checks and balances because some nutters broke the law.
I think you miss the point, following the second amendment, by the time you have raised a militia and created an organised resistance to a "tyrannical government" you are already up **** creek without much of a paddle.
Again, the second Amendment makes sense in 1776 as I said earlier when soldiers and civilians alike only had access to single shot muskets that when trained could be fired at most 3 or 4 shots a minute. in 2018, when that same tyrannical government has drones, stealth bombers, Abrams tanks, Apache helicopters and countless other weapons of war far beyond an AR-15 or a Glock 9mm being carried by fat, middle aged, balding blokes wearing camo gear that's one size too small in broad daylight on an urban street can ever hope to match you have to look at ways of making sure that government doesn't become tyrannical in the first place.
Yes, guerilla warfare is a possibility, but surely there's better, and less dangerous ways of doing something before it gets to that stage?
remind me again what happens when armed civilians going up against local, state or federal agents with weapons? If you get pulled over for speeding or any other trivial motoring offence and then decide to pull a gun on a police officer because you consider them tyrannical for daring to pull you over how do you think that ends?
The United States had actual slavery at the same time as the Second Amendment, you can't get much more ******* tyrannical than that.
But the whole "armed populace to stop a tyrannical Govt" is just hogwash anyway.
This is down to $$$ via the agenda pushed by the NRA, nothing more nothing less
Ok well that's just your opinion, you aren't even a US citizen so it's not really important
Well I mean if you're breaking laws which have been democratically implemented and agreed by the majority of the representatives of the population, and then you try and murder a Police officer for trying to enforce those laws, that's nothing to do with the intention of the 2nd amendment. Clearly that argument is pretty dumb. Slaves weren't protected by the US constitution, though you'll remember the US had a civil war over that. Most of the population agreed slavery was evil at that time, including a lot of people from the Southern states, it's just that their economy was based on slavery.
"tyrannical". Really.
Lol, not just my opinion, there is a lot of debate on the actual wording of the 2nd Amendment, as it is a bit ambiguous.
Also, not sure how you can dismiss out of hand the NRA's influence on legislation with the amount of money they pump into US politics.
There is no good reason for hate speech laws. Nobody should be jailed because someones feels where hurt and nobody should be jailed or fined when they literally have to ask the person who might have been offended by it to watch it to ask if its offensive or not XD.
Yes the NRA feel it's very important to protect citizens by stopping governments making their citizens defenseless, they get their money from US citizens who feel the same way. They aren't an evil group of people who want to see kids shot.
Isn't this an argument for the public to have predator drones as well
no they don't, most of their funding comes direct from gun manufacturers. The NRA right upto the mid 70s was entirely about gun safety and animal conservation, since then it is entirely focused on selling more guns. That's not opinion, that is fact.
As for not being an evil group of people, you clearly haven't seen any of Dana Loesch's work for the organisation.
the general public cause enough problems flying camera drones in places they shouldn't be, imagine a Go-Pro strapped to a hellfire missile aimed at a buck or a wild boar.Isn't this an argument for the public to have predator drones as well
The police officer pulling you over for a motoring offence does not endanger you or your property.
Wanting to sell more guns is not a problem. It's not illegal in any way.
How do you know that for sure though? they might use the current asset forfeiture laws still in use in a lot of states to seize the car and throw you in prison for something entirely unrelated.
That's the point, if you are so paranoid the government is out to get you that you need to be armed to the teeth to fight back then more often than not it ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy.
So why is is there a national data base for every car?
They have the right to own a car?
never said it was, Roar87 was the one who said the NRA exists to protect citizens, which is clearly nonsense.