Shotguns: Show us your clay / game / zombie bashers
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I've just been reading up on them. A Beretta 686 clone for £600 new? The only concern is I've been reading reports that there is a common issue with failing to fire when leading with the top barrel. I was all set for the ATA until I saw that cropping up repeatedly.
Yeah their have been some issues but the same can be said about the new Beretta 692 breaking in half or the 725 double discharging. All have their faults. I think the customer services for ATA aren't the best. However you've got to remember they are mass produced at a cost so the quality wont be their. But for £600 and a 3 year warranty, any issues should be sorted. Though it might take a while.
Ahha this .308 Ruger Precision intention must have converted into the Tikka CTR in the images you just bought thread, funny what 10 months of waiting can do
Since I last posted in this thread I have bought my Ruger Gunsight Scout for CSR, Kicks like a mule because it is so light and it is really loud thanks to the short barrel (16 inches) but that just makes me like it even more!
Also the latest form of the CMMG, still playing with the 45 degree red dot as I am not sure if it is actually just better to go with just the red dot on the 25m practical course.
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Ahha this .308 Ruger Precision intention must have converted into the Tikka CTR in the images you just bought thread, funny what 10 months of waiting can do
Since I last posted in this thread I have bought my Ruger Gunsight Scout for CSV, Kicks like a mule because it is so light and it is really loud thanks to the short barrel (16 inches) but that just makes me like it even more!
Also the latest form of the CMMG, still playing with the 45 degree red dot as I am not sure if it is actually just better to go with just the red dot on the 25m practical course.
Impressive cmmg do you do many competitions? I'm assuming you plan on doing some with the M2? I lost interest in the RPR and wanted the Tikka Tac but in the end decided on the Ctr and plan on putting it in a Mdt ESS
Here's the others:
Pistol isn't showing the stupid coat hanger on the rear.
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The bolt action is for Civilian Service Rifle which is pretty much what this trailer video shows:
Basically you start at one end of a long range, assume a position as directed (prone/standing/kneeling/sitting) then a soldier sized target will appear and you shoot it. It then disappears and you all charge up the range to the next position within a specified time range (say 100m in 45s) and rinse and repeat. If it looks like something from WWI then that is because it is!
The AR15 chambered in .22 is semi automatic and is used for practical mini rifle competitions like the one in the video below:
Excellent video here that goes into a bit more detail:
For more info on practical shooting please see the UKPSA shooting website http://www.ukpsa.co.uk/
This is popular with people from a police or military background but it is actually open to anyone with a license to have a gun and there are lots of places around the country where you can do it, best to join your local range first then have a look around.
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I do local comps twice monthly at my local range - just got my UKPSA safety so I can now to matches internationally if I feel like it which I may well do!
Stop it with the Henry - I want one badly. I too will be whacking a scope on it although some think that as sacrilege.
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I do get the odd comment on the scope but at the end of the day I bought the gun to enjoy it and its much more enjoyable seeing where you are shooting, especially at 50m I can't get on with the buck horn sights.
I hear you, I know how to use buck horn sights - I just think they are rubbish!
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Also the latest form of the CMMG, still playing with the 45 degree red dot as I am not sure if it is actually just better to go with just the red dot on the 25m practical course.
Can you post some more details on this? What model and calibre is it? Presumably it is centrefire to be legal in the UK??
What will you be using the SX4 for?
I dont really know anything about the Savage but I do like stainless/chromed barrels - looks slick.
In the UK we can have whatever calibre we like but only rimfire and shotguns are allowed to be semi automatic.
The rifle in that picture is chambered in .22 rimfire and is semi automatic, if you are not up to speed on shooting this is a really small round that is the most popular round in the world because it is very cheap (~10p a round). Although it looks pretty mean that rifle is actually just a bit of a plinker and is actually something of a starter gun I would put in a new/young supervised shooters hands to get them used to shooting as it has almost zero recoil and being semi auto is easy to operate. The bullet coming out of the end has a muzzle energy of about 110 ft lbs (air rifles in the UK are max 12ft lbs and an AR 15 in 5.56 nato is 1300 ft lbs for comparison - so an order of magnitude up from an air rifle but an order of magnitude down from military rifles).
That actual rifle was originally a CMMG Mk4 LE such as this one - http://www.emrr.org.uk/22A7C20.html
But with it being MilSpec bascialy means I can switch pretty much everything on it for aftermarket parts and with the AR 15 being the ubiquitous firearm that it is, there are loads and loads of parts - even in the UK which is a small market. The only parts different in the .22 version to the 5.56 version are the barrel, magazine and bolt group. However the AR 15 platform splits in half, an upper and a lower by removing two takedown pins which allows you to change the upper and hence caliber in seconds anyway, so long as you have the right permissions from your local police force on your license of course. As this chap demonstrates:
If the rifle were to be used with centrefire ammunition (in any caliber - typically 5.56/.233 although you can get them in 300 blackout, 6.5 Grendel and .50 Beowulf) it requires an interruption to the bolt automatically cycling after a shot is fired to comply with the law. Typically AR 15s will be missing the gas tube that ports the gas back to drive the bolt back, this means that after every shot you have to 'charge' the bolt manually to abide by the law. Rimfire is direct blowback and does not require this gas tube. This has been the law for about 30 years and and various modifications can be done to improve things whilst staying within the letter of the law - rather than drone on about it just watch this video:
Both are for vermin control, although I'm sure the SX4 could be used for practical shotgun if I ever feel inclined to try it. I believe they run practical courses on short Syberia at Bisley.
I spent a lot of time deciding which rifle to go for. I was looking at Tikka and Howa, but then the gun store owner showed me his Savage. I'd love a Sako but they really demand a premium, maybe when I fill another slot.
Currently got a CZ 455 stainless on order in .17HMR, leaving me with an open slot for a .22 and a 7mm.
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Cheers. Been reading a fair bit today. I rent at the moment so can’t buy a safe but I may look into this more when I buy my own place. Would be interested in target shooting.
You are lucky, my police force won't issue FAC shotgun for anything but UKPSA. There are lots of places that do practical don't just limit yourself to Bisley.
I rent, I have a safe but I didn't used to - lots of clubs have storage for members rifles who cannot store at home. If you tenancy doesn't mention that firearms are not allowed to be kept then you should ask the landlord, after all it is just 4 bolt holes that you can fill in afterwards like you would with a picture frame. Some people would even argue it is none of the landlords business and they don't need to know. I did ask mine but I knew he is a legend anyway and would say yes.
Nice piece! I heard the magazine is welded so it looks authentic but still is section 2? Looks fun! My first play with a .410 was with a converted rifle as well. Couldn't hit a barn door, but hey, they look cool
I bought a russian 410 SxS since, built like a tank, loads of choke, very nice to shoot -- I can even hit the occasional clay with that one
I bought a russian 410 SxS since, built like a tank, loads of choke, very nice to shoot -- I can even hit the occasional clay with that one
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Single shot or do the .410 cartridges feed from the magazine too? I've been after a LE .410 bolty for yonks, but have only come across one with 2+1 capacity and that was at the wrong time!