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On the other hand you are also creating division by calling them "losers","dumb" and "intellectually restricted".

I think we should have learnt enough from the brexit vote that isn't the way to communicate effectively with people :D.
Tolerance of their ignorance-driven intolerance is a step too far.

"Loser" aside, "dumb" and "intellectually restricted" need to be acceptable terms for use in the debate. Glossing over ignorant entitlement risks making the search for terrorist motivation futile.
 
Tolerance of their ignorance-driven intolerance is a step too far.

"Loser" aside, "dumb" and "intellectually restricted" need to be acceptable terms for use in the debate. Glossing over ignorant entitlement risks making the search for terrorist motivation futile.

No they dont :D. Using insults just detracts from any point you try to make. If you can't debate without resorting to insults then you're lacking substance in your argument.

I never mentioned tolerating it but belittling and insulting never solves anything.

You can't convince everyone, very few people change their opinions but you certainly won't change the few who would using insults.

Point in case my posts aren't going to change your opinion but I imagine you respect my opinion moreso that I have not resorted to insulting you. Are you not more open to accepting my stance when it is without insults?
 
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No they dont :D. Using insults just detracts from any point you try to make. If you can't debate without resorting to insults then you're lacking substance in your argument.

I never mentioned tolerating it but belittling and insulting never solves anything.

You can't convince everyone, very few people change their opinions but you certainly won't change the few who would using insults.
It got trump in to the presidency! There must be some advantagr
 
The fact that London is a scruffy, dirty, vastly overpriced, vastly overrated ignorant City puts me off from visiting this place more than this terrorist attack .....

I think that is how most non-Londoners feel about it. I only go there if I really have to. There's so much SMUG in the air it's toxic
 
No they dont :D. Using insults just detracts from any point you try to make. If you can't debate without resorting to insults then you're lacking substance in your argument.

I never mentioned tolerating it but belittling and insulting never solves anything.

You can't convince everyone, very few people change their opinions but you certainly won't change the few who would using insults.

Point in case my posts aren't going to change your opinion but I imagine you respect my opinion moreso that I have not resorted to insulting you. Are you not more open to accepting my stance when it is without insults?
Some people are dumb and intellectually restricted. Censuring acknowledgement and discussion of that merely allows unintelligent views less challenge than they deserve.
 
I think that is how most non-Londoners feel about it. I only go there if I really have to. There's so much SMUG in the air it's toxic

I loved London. Great transport system, loads to do and see, great food; it's just a shame it costs so much to live there. I feel like what other cities lack is the transit system London has, if more had that we'd see the better development in other areas.
 
Because now he's born in Kent and called Adrian, Chris needs to push the envelope further for his rhetoric
He's not called Adrian. He WAS called Adrian. A very key difference.
He chose to change his name and take a different identity.
 
Seems he was a bit of a scrote in his early years too. Same sort of history of petty crimes and violence that those charming chaps in Belgium had and no doubt others who've gone down this path.
Kind of mirrors that movie Four Lions.

Religious converts (whether Islamic or Christian or Jedi) always seem the most zealous, like they're making up for their years of non-belief.
 
He's not called Adrian. He WAS called Adrian. A very key difference.
He chose to change his name and take a different identity.
No getting away from the fact this has made it difficult to sing, "Send the ******s back".
 
His birth surname of Ajao is apparently of Nigerian origin. The surname of his chosen alias at the time of his shooting is of Pakistani origin,
meaning lucky, and his forename that of a well known historic Asiatic warrior. Remarkable thing that Google, and not a single overly verbose
insult from it for asking :)
 
Religious converts (whether Islamic or Christian or Jedi) always seem the most zealous, like they're making up for their years of non-belief.

Unsurprising in a way. The ones that convert likely felt lost and marginalised and resorted to a number of other stupid things to fill the gap between their ears before moving onto something more stupid like religious extremism.

I make no excuse for them but point it out because pretending that they were role model citizens before they turn to religion often removes the root of the problem from the story.
 
Shocking most of the comments in here.. Some of you should be really ashamed of yourselves.

Media feeding frenzy in a society that has a short memory and nothing better to do.
 
It's interesting and often useful to know the origins and background of enemies of the state, don't you agree? It may help with motive?
If there's notable commonality in these people's origin it may be illuminating and helpful.

Well now that the media are reporting he got radicalised in Saudi Arabia, which seems to be a very common factor in Western terrorist attacks, when are we going to demand that nobody can travel to SA or if they do they cant come back here?
 
Well now that the media are reporting he got radicalised in Saudi Arabia, which seems to be a very common factor in Western terrorist attacks, when are we going to demand that nobody can travel to SA or if they do they cant come back here?
Never because ££££

SA is probably the biggest extreme islamist enclave of all
 
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