Poll: Should Gary McKinnon be extradited to the US for hacking?

Should he?

  • Yes

    Votes: 232 19.5%

  • No

    Votes: 823 69.3%

  • I don't like poles

    Votes: 132 11.1%
  • Total voters
    1,187
throw the book at him and hopefully put off any future hacking attempts by making an exaample of him.
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This doesn't make any sense when you take into consideration that all countries are doing it including the USA and how do you arrest a country? The example you are referring to is only directed towards an individual that doesn't really make a difference in the long term.

Edit: There problem is there is plenty more bigger fish to fry that you can't even touch. Using a hammer to crack a nut is the thought that comes to mind?????
 
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Irrespective of how easy or hard it was to "hack" into the systems, or whether he did any actual hacking besides guessing easy passwords - the fact remains he did it.

Any sysadmin will tell you that any system that is verified as having been comprimised is tainted and can't be trusted until it's fully reinstalled from a known-good restore point.

Arguing that "he didn't do anything bad when he was in!" is irrelevant really for the above reason.

No sympathy whatsoever I'm afraid (speaking as someone who has had to spend long weekends restoring customer equipment that has been comprimised)
 
Durzel said:
Irrespective of how easy or hard it was to "hack" into the systems, or whether he did any actual hacking besides guessing easy passwords - the fact remains he did it.

Any sysadmin will tell you that any system that is verified as having been comprimised is tainted and can't be trusted until it's fully reinstalled from a known-good restore point.

Arguing that "he didn't do anything bad when he was in!" is irrelevant really for the above reason.

No sympathy whatsoever I'm afraid (speaking as someone who has had to spend long weekends restoring customer equipment that has been comprimised)
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Which begs the question why was it so easy to break in anyway? He is being extradited for political reasons. he did wrong I agree, the crime was commited on British soil so he should be tried here.

He hacked into the American political system and they are ****ed off, its got nothing to do with cost. If this had happened to a bank or other private system nothing would have been done.

This government should develop some balls and start to tell the americans where they can shove it for a change.
 
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Which begs the question why was it so easy to break in anyway? He is being extradited for political reasons. he did wrong I agree, the crime was commited on British soil so he should be tried here.
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The jurisdictional issue isn't quite that simple though because via the internet you quite obviously don't need to be in the physical location that you are affecting - the crime here is against American computers in an American institution so they've logically got a claim against Mr McKinnon.

Suppose for a second I was standing in Scotland and I decided to throw stones at someone on the English side of the border - in this fictitious example where should the trial take place? They are different legal systems although with some distinct similarities and in both countries it can be a crime (variations of assault) but the locus of the court is up to the people prosecuting - broadly the same thing here.
 
The yanks only want him because he is a easy catch and to show the USA "We are Doing Something About Hackers)
 
nah... more likely is that he "knows" something.... or found out about something.

Now he needs to be silenced, forever.

Hacking thing is just the cover to get him over there....
 
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I agree with frosty.


Lord knows what he was privy to, and they are thinking the same thing.


Stick him in a federal prison and thats that.



Stupid sod.
 
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The jurisdictional issue isn't quite that simple though because via the internet you quite obviously don't need to be in the physical location that you are affecting - the crime here is against American computers in an American institution so they've logically got a claim against Mr McKinnon.

Suppose for a second I was standing in Scotland and I decided to throw stones at someone on the English side of the border - in this fictitious example where should the trial take place? They are different legal systems although with some distinct similarities and in both countries it can be a crime (variations of assault) but the locus of the court is up to the people prosecuting - broadly the same thing here.
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Suppose Mugabe sets up a website hosted in Zimbabwe, and then suppose he passes a law stating that it is illegal to access this website from outside Zimbabwe.
Then suppose I happen to access this website - should I be extradited to Zimbabwe because I broke a Zimbabwean law?

With internet/remote related crime you should always work within the jurisdiction of where the offender is - as they are only required to be aware of the laws of where they are - not the country where the webserver is hosted.
 
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Suppose Mugabe sets up a website hosted in Zimbabwe, and then suppose he passes a law stating that it is illegal to access this website from outside Zimbabwe.
Then suppose I happen to access this website - should I be extradited to Zimbabwe because I broke a Zimbabwean law?

With internet/remote related crime you should always work within the jurisdiction of where the offender is - as they are only required to be aware of the laws of where they are - not the country where the webserver is hosted.
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In that case it would be upto the government and courts to decide whether the offence that had been committed in Zimbabwe warranted extradition (like they did in this case for hacking US based systems).
 
He should be punished I just don't see why it should be done over in America, if an American hacked (or easily logged into) one of our government systems the American's would laugh in our faces if we told them to send him over here.

TBH the guy has probably suffered enough over the last 8 or so years, I'm not sure why the American's are still so desperate to get a hold of him.
 
He did wrong and should really go to them. i do not however not agree to what he is likely to be sentenced to or the way they seem to be planning to make way too much of it.
 
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