Poll: Should Gary McKinnon be extradited to the US for hacking?

Should he?

  • Yes

    Votes: 232 19.5%

  • No

    Votes: 823 69.3%

  • I don't like poles

    Votes: 132 11.1%
  • Total voters
    1,187
rick827 said:
Jeanson Ancheta got nearly 5 years for building a 400,000 strong botnet and selling resources for spamming and DDoS. He also infected US Defence systems with the malicious software he wrote..

If Gary gets a couple of years in the US then i'd say that was fair
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Agree with that. The sentance being quoted does seem a little ott.
 
Hitman_Leon said:
Hacker's suck my dogs *****, when they steal card details from a shopping site and max out your master card you want them hung. When they are some socially inept nuggett who reads too much science fiction you want them let off. Its crime and time if he had not done it he would not serve it and his tree hugging lawyers, who as it happens probably do manage to get off some genuinely dangerous individuals and put them back on our streets have failed.
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dear me, sadly this is the type of person hes up against.


chiLLZ said:
The whole situation is a complete joke, he has not harmed any one he is obviously not a dangerous individual, he has accepted that he hacked into Americas infrastructure and he has said that he is obviously not going to do it again. Jail is for dangerous people, he should be punished like having to pay for as much of the damage that he has done as he can. they could put him on trial in the US and have him serve his centince here in the UK if they really must jail him which is the humain thing to do for someone who has Asperger Syndrome.

The risks about mental illness are real if he has aspergers syndrome and he is seperated from those who know him. of course when does the US ever care about whats fair?. 73 years is laughable and people these days get less for murder which is a disgreace. its just about america going to extremes as usual.
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totally agree with you chiLLZ.

he shouldn't be used as an example.
 
chiLLZ said:
73 years is laughable
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morkfromork said:
Agree with that. The sentance being quoted does seem a little ott.
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he was offered 37 months, he refused it.

And 73 years is just the absolute maximum he could face, realistically he's looking at 10 years


and people these days get less for murder which is a disgreace.
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In America life often means life. They don't seem to suffer the same wishy washy justice system we do.
 
He should be extradited and stand trial in America, without doubt. However, I have some serious issues with the sort of sentences they are looking to hand out for him. That being said, he did break the law.. He would have known the possible consequences before doing so.
 
steve-h said:
dear me, sadly this is the type of person hes up against.
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And your point is?

A, let him off he's just some lovable chap who is a bit ill and has misplaced ideals?

B, He's from England we dont do hackers he's just excercising his right to freedom of information?

C, Its only the USA's stuff he hacked, we hate them anyway where's the harm?

Most if not all of the arguments are invalid and deserve no consideration,

He showed the USA the way they were not securing their computers?

No, he hacked and fumbled his way into a place he was not supposed to be, he knew where he was and what he was doing.


He should not be tried in the USA as he has a medical condition?

No he should and can be tried in the USA, if we do not extradite him the USA may in the future deny us the extradition of a US person who comits a crime considered serious in the UK but rather funny in the USA because it exposed lax security in the UK. People with far more serious health issues are tried for lesser crimes and serve out their sentances, you cant make any exceptions, ever.

He did not break in the door/security was practically open anyway?

Just because the door is open or security is lax dose that mean you can go in the house/server/shop/ect ect ect. No, its no less a crime than if you used brute force and smashed your way in.
 
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The Americans should be a little glad it was a man with Asperger's Syndrome who hacked into those systems and exposed the flaws - instead of Russian or Chinese spies. If I was a somewhat intelligent man, I'd try to hire McKinnon to assist with security in the system, not try to send him down.
 
KNiVES said:
If I was a somewhat intelligent man, I'd try to hire McKinnon to assist with security in the system, not try to send him down.
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Why? All he could really do is tell them to actually change the default passwords and configure their routers properly. It is highly doubtful that he knows anything to do with real security.

Hitman_Leon said:
And your point is?

A, let him off he's just some lovable chap who is a bit ill and has misplaced ideals?

B, He's from England we dont do hackers he's just excercising his right to freedom of information?

C, Its only the USA's stuff he hacked, we hate them anyway where's the harm?

Most if not all of the arguments are invalid and deserve no consideration,

He showed the USA the way they were not securing their computers?

No, he hacked and fumbled his way into a place he was not supposed to be, he knew where he was and what he was doing.


He should not be tried in the USA as he has a medical condition?

No he should and can be tried in the USA, if we do not extradite him the USA may in the future deny us the extradition of a US person who comits a crime considered serious in the UK but rather funny in the USA because it exposed lax security in the UK. People with far more serious heal issues are tried for lesser crimes and serve out their sentances, you cant make any exceptions, ever.

He did not break in the door/security was practically open anyway?

Just because the door is open or security is lax dose that mean you can go in the house/server/shop/ect ect ect. No, its no less a crime than if you used brute force and smashed your way in.
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Agreed. He committed a crime, he should be punished as such. I really don't see the big issue here.
 
steve-h said:
totally agree with you chiLLZ.

he shouldn't be used as an example.
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He is not an example, an example would be if you took a sample subject from a collection of perpetrators who had taken part in similar crimes and only prossecuted that particular individual as an example to the others.
 
It's begining to grate with me the way they're going on about his Asperger's Syndrome as if he was some sort of mental incapable and shouldn't be extradited/convicted because of it.

I've no problem with him being extradited and sent to prison for a couple of years. He knew what he was doing.
 
What the hell is with that music video appeal lol

I just watched an interview with him from 2007 where he explains what he did and what he found. I can't believe he got in by Admin accounts with blank passwords then remote desktop'ed onto the machines. He explains that someone saw the mouse move on the machine and started chatting to him through notepad and he bluffed his way out of it... he is hardly a hardcore hacker! Using dialup, through no proxy, remote deskop!

I think this guy is more so stupid than a threat to security.

He claims he found a photo of a cigar shaped craft in orbit of earth which looked alien just before he was cut off. A very good imagination i'm thinking..
 
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i think he should be, however when your in the UK US law doen't come into it as your not on there soil, although he new what he was doing so there should be some penalty at least to deter others. 70 years :o murder i think is 14 in the uk a lot less in most cases.
if he was in the US then yes he has to take the penalty for the law of the land! same as drug dealers in thialand etc and the goverment shouldn't step in unless it is without a dought that they are inacent
 
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