Poll: Should Gary McKinnon be extradited to the US for hacking?

Should he?

  • Yes

    Votes: 232 19.5%

  • No

    Votes: 823 69.3%

  • I don't like poles

    Votes: 132 11.1%
  • Total voters
    1,187
I really doubt he did $800,000 worth of damage. Furthermore from reading about it and reasearching into it, I genuinely believe he was just looking for information on alien and spacecraft as it's his obsession/passion.

I also believe he knew what he was doing was illegal or wrong, however I don't believe he realised the implications of it.

I believe he should be arrested and charged and serve some sort of time.

I don't believe he should be sent to the US, and I don't believe 70 years is a suitable charge either taking into consideration my first paragraph

Blown out of proportion springs to mind.
 
I presume that he has no more grounds for appeal and is now waiting to be extradited?
 
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RDM said:
To be fair quite a few americans did die in that attack so they do have an interest. But lets not let that get in the way of a good anti-american rant eh?
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The decision should not be taken on political grounds nor subject to political pressure, as the first minister rightly says.

On top of which, it is highly debatable whether they convicted the right man for the bombing anyway.
 
Dolph said:
Damn that pesky freedom of speech, anyone would think people had a right to voice an opinion or something...
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There are limits to freedom of speech, and interfering in the political or judicial processes of another nation is usually one of them.
 
dirtydog said:
There are limits to freedom of speech, and interfering in the political or judicial processes of another nation is usually one of them.
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We interfere in the political and judical systems of other countries all the time, even if it is only by verbally criticising the decisions made.

http://www.euractiv.com/en/foreign-affairs/eu-leaders-step-iran-election-criticism/article-183366
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6896797.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8204207.stm

Just as a few examples of our leaders criticising or interfering in other nations politics and judicial processes.
 
dirtydog said:
There are limits to freedom of speech, and interfering in the political or judicial processes of another nation is usually one of them.
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Rubbish. They are expressing an opinion on something that does have a connection with their country. And being able to speak freely about political or judicial processes of other nations is a very good use of free speech, probably second only to using it to speak freely about political or judicial processes of your own country.
 
Well put it this way, Americans would have more of a moral right to lecture others if they didn't get up in arms whenever they receive criticism from abroad.
 
dirtydog said:
Well put it this way, Americans would have more of a moral right to lecture others if they didn't get up in arms whenever they receive criticism from abroad.
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See our response to US criticism of the NHS as an example of not getting up in arms?
 
Remember the arrogant response from Donald Rumsfeld and others in the US government / senate when British MPs dared to question conditions at Guantanamo Bay?
 
simulatorman said:
No.
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ANGRY U.S. DENIAL Rumsfeld rips Guantanamo critics

By RICHARD SISK DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU With News Wire Services

Wednesday, January 23th 2002, 2:24AM

WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld threw a controlled fit yesterday over charges prisoners were being tortured in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

"Just plain false" and "just utter nonsense," the exasperated Rumsfeld said of the charges floated in the British Parliament, the London tabloids and the European Union.

He likened the critics' complaints "from a comfortable distance" to the nursery tale of Chicken Little raising the false alarm that "the sky's falling, isn't this terrible?"
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http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2002/01/23/2002-01-23_angry_u_s__denial_rumsfeld_r.html


"It's amazing the insight that parliamentarians can gain from 5,000 miles away," he said in response to questions about a recent session of parliament in London during which the treatment of detainees had been criticized.
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http://tvnz.co.nz/content/77892
 
Freefaller said:
I really doubt he did $800,000 worth of damage.
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I think where they quote damage it is

'the wages and expenses paid during investigtion/attack'

Now the majority of the wages ect paid would hve been paid anyway because of long term employment of staff but as each person becomes involved they are added as a cost because their focus is taken from day to day work. I think they could best term it as involvment costs, he caused X-amount of people to be involved because of what he did and they cost X-amount in wages/expenses.
 
Freefaller said:
I really doubt he did $800,000 worth of damage.
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Hitman_Leon said:
I think where they quote damage it is 'the wages and expenses paid during investigtion/attack'
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I believe that the figure chosen may have had something to do with the "importance" of the alleged crime - i.e. he couldn't have been extradited for a trivial offence, so they had to make it seem like serious business, threatening national security and the American way of life :eek:
 
The extradition to the US of computer hacker Gary McKinnon should be halted owing to his "precarious state of mental health", MPs say. The Home Affairs Committee also said there was a "serious lack of equality" in US-UK extradition arrangements.

But the Home Office said there was "no imbalance" and no need for a review.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8357417.stm
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I suspect that osmone at the Home Office has been taking the Nutty Professor's advice too seriously ;)
 
Gary McKinnon faces being tried in the US after requests to block his extradition were refused, the Home Office has confirmed. Home Secretary Alan Johnson told Mr McKinnon's family he could not block the move on medical grounds.

Glasgow-born Mr McKinnon, 43, who has Asperger's syndrome, is accused of breaking into US military computers. He says he was seeking UFO evidence. Now of Wood Green, north London, he faces 60 years in prison if convicted.
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His mother Janis Sharp told the BBC she was "devastated" by the news and that her son had reacted "very badly".
"It's a disgusting decision. Gary has been in a heightened state of terror for almost eight years. To force a peaceful, vulnerable, misguided UFO fanatic like Gary thousands of miles away from his much-needed support network is barbaric," she said.
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Earlier this month, the Commons' Home Affairs Committee said the move should be halted owing to his "precarious state of mental health". They concluded there was a "serious lack of equality" in the way the extradition treaty deals with UK citizens compared with US citizens.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8381961.stm
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21:54 GMT, Thursday, 26 November 2009.

The British Government bends over and assumes the position for our Transatlantic Overlords again :mad:
 
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