Shuttle SH67H3 Performance

I'm working out if I can afford to build one too, to replace my gaming machine which is currently a SD37P2 (400W power supply) with one of the 5850 extremes in it.

Will the stock 300W power supply be OK for a 2500K (for future clockable SB Shuttles) and the 5850.

EDIT: I see it supports RAID, where are the hard drive bays? one at the top back and the 'floppy' bay?

EDIT: Handy page on Shuttle site: http://uk.shuttle.com/support/power
 
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Bradmax57 said:
Hi

Quite fancy one of these myself, was thinking more of a 560 to go in as i didnt think the 300w would be anywhere near enough to power a 570 but thats great to know, does the psu come with one or two 6 pin plugs? got any internal pics with components installed? Either this or a itx self build but have to say I like the fact you can use a standard optical and card reader compared to something like a sg05 that you have to use a slimline

Just out of interest i see your ram is at 1300 in op, is there any reason for this? or is it just that there are no options to change it
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Away for the weekend, but will do some internal pics on my return.
The PSU only has 1 VGA power connector I use a splitter 6Pin to 2 6Pin
The H67 chipset will only run ram at a max of 1333MHz
 
Having had a few Shuttle SFF PCs myself I would not be powering a GTX570 off the stock 300W PSU. It might be OK for now but whether it will be fine in two years to three time is another question. I have seen plenty of the lower rated Shuttle PSUs have issues after this time if pushed too much.

I would just get the 500W PSU and be done with it.

Anyway,where is the SH67H7 Pro in the UK?? It looks much nicer than the SH67H3.

KiiYzOo said:
hopefully they'll bring out some z68/am3+/skt 2011 shuttles that aren't too expensive :p
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The newer Shuttles can use mini-ITX motherboards. Shuttle said a few years ago that they wer going to sell cases only. I wish they would do this as Zotac have a nice Z68 based mini-ITX motherboard:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/Z68-ITX_WIFI/
 
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the 300w psu is powering a very small unit, check thread above, people have no trouble running shed loads... i agree 500w is more ideal, but worth getting if and when
 
I have been a member of that forum for yonks. I would not be powering a GTX570 off a 300W PSU if I wanted it to last a few years. According to techpowerup it consumes 190W under load!! The GTX570 consumes even more power under load than a GTX470. In fact it consumes over 80W more than a GTX460 1GB.

My SD37P2 has lasted me over four and a half years but it has a 400W PSU.

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Here are the specifications of the PC60:

http://www.shuttle.eu/products/xpc-accessories/pc60/

The 12V line can supply 210W.

Here are the 80+ reports for the Shuttle PSUs:

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSuppliesDetail.aspx?id=63&type=2

Looking at the power consumption figures at the wall for the system the OP has it looks like the 12V lines is near full load. You are looking at around 240W to 250W from the PSU. Most of this will be from the 12V line. Once you get dust build up and capacitor ageing the effective PSU output starts to drop.
 
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i understand the facts and numbers, but plenty of people have run state of the art systems on 300w, if you have the cash then yeah why not, i always had the theory of adding 500w if i need it.

on another note just grabbed a GTX460 for my existing shuttle, i may not need to upgrade just yet
 
_Jimlad_ said:
i understand the facts and numbers, but plenty of people have run state of the art systems on 300w, if you have the cash then yeah why not, i always had the theory of adding 500w if i need it.
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Look at the cards in that thread. They are mostly GTX460 cards which require significantly lower power under load. The more powerful GPUs are being run off the 400W,450W and 500W Shuttle PSUs. The graphics card is the biggest load on the 12V line in many gaming systems.

Of all the single GPU cards the GTX570 is only behind the GTX580 in load power consumption. I have known enough people who have had problems with the Shuttle PSUs and motherboards when they have pushed them too far after two to three years. Either the PSU goes south or the VRM sections on the motherboard.

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on another note just grabbed a GTX460 for my existing shuttle, i may not need to upgrade just yet
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I would give the cooling fins a good clean with a blower to remove any dust, as it does seem the fan on the Razer is aggressive according to some reviews.
 
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Bradmax57 said:
Can this one take ITX boards?
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The J series cases could take mini-ITX motherboards so I would check with Shuttle.

Anyway,Shuttle does mention they are going to make mini-ITX cases in this article:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/pcs/2011/02/24/shuttle-talks-shop-and-previews-its-sh67h3/1

"However, this conversation did lead onto the exclusive revelation that Shuttle will be launching a series of standard mini-ITX bare chassis. This is a clever move, because current mini-ITX cases are often too expensive or lacking in aesthetic appeal, and Shuttle's XPC designs are consistently some of the best out there. Shuttle explained that these cases will all feature space for a dual PCI-E, and will likely come pre-fitted with its 250W, 300W and 500W PSUs, the latter of which is 80Plus Bronze certified."

An H7 Pro case with the 500W PSU would be very nice.
 
Just wondering about the h67 and itx boards, it looks like it possibly has a removable i/o shield so might be possible to use, i looked at the J series ones and they do actually state that they can take itx boards so it could be safer to do that, the reason i want to know about this one is ideally a 5.25" and 3.5" for my card reader would be perfect :)
 
Bradmax57 said:
Just wondering about the h67 and itx boards, it looks like it possibly has a removable i/o shield so might be possible to use, i looked at the J series ones and they do actually state that they can take itx boards so it could be safer to do that, the reason i want to know about this one is ideally a 5.25" and 3.5" for my card reader would be perfect :)
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J Series is the only one that can take ITX boards.. but, as far as I know, all the J series are Steal Chassis instead of Aluminium, so i'm not sure you would really want one anyway :(

The H3 and H7 series do not take ITX boards they are back to bespoke Shuttle format. Basically the screws are in unique possitions and, more importantly the back plate is narrower than ITX because Shuttle have 2xPCI-e slots ITX only has 1.
 
SimonMaltby said:
Away for the weekend, but will do some internal pics on my return.
The PSU only has 1 VGA power connector I use a splitter 6Pin to 2 6Pin
The H67 chipset will only run ram at a max of 1333MHz
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Could you possibly message me where you got the splitter for the pci-e power from? I cant seem to find any other than fleabay
 
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Just wanted to give a heads up on this...
Shuttle have just put out a new bios which includes Turbo mode. This means that even though the machine is not overclockable with the H67 chipset the CPU will now boost to 3.8GHz (2600).

I have to say that I am very, very impressed with the performance of this machine. My setup is...

Shuttle SH67H3
Intel i7 2600K (Yea I know the K is pointless, but I had the chip before the shuttle)
8GB Gskill 1600 Ram @ 1300
MSI GTX 570 GPU @700 core
Vertex 3 240GB SSD
1TB normal SATA 3 Hard drive
BluRay burner

The machine does super-Pi in 9.25s
Copes with any game I throw at it at 1920x1080 maxed
Sits idle at 45w and full load at 290w

Its not the nicest looking of machines, but boy is it fast and quiet.
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mate what psu do you use in this?
 
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