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Sick of waiting for NVidia refresh...

You don't have to use a controller. Xim4 allows you to use Keyboard and mouse. Your current build is still fine to play at 1080p on mostly ultra/high so if you don't like the console exclusives just keep enjoying your PC. I game on every system apart from Xbox atm. Using a controller to me is better for some games over keyboard and mouse but in those that it ain't I just hook my mouse and keyboard up to the xim4 and play like I do on the PC.

I am fine, got an i7 8700 with 16gb 3200 DDR4 ram and the 980, I can play at 1440p with high settings most of the time. I like the flexibility and the breadth of games PC offers, such as a strategy and tactical games consoles lack. I will buy a 20xx or AMD equivalent when they are out.
 
Firstly, the massive steam library problem is real, I have a compulsion to buy games on sale even though I have about a hundred yet to play.

Can I ask about Humble Monthly? Once you have a game, is it yours to keep it is there some sort of authentication?

Can I join for a couple of months for games I like, leave and then rejoin later (ad infinitum)?

Are you enjoying it?

You get the games forever which you get in a month. They give you steam keys.
You don't get access to PREVIOUS humble monthlys, so no.



So far from Humble monthly I've gotten:

Deus ex mankind divided
god eater 2 rage burst
mafia iii
god eater resurrection
Dark osuls 3
overgrowth
life is strange
civ vi
owlboy
tomb raider rise of
sleeping dogs
quantum break
war hammer 40,000
bla blue calamity trigger
sexy brutale
resident evil 5
elder scrolls online
quake champions
dead rising 2
furi
orwell
banner saga 2
killing floor 2
nba sk17
one pece burning blood
pillars of eternity hero edition
overcooked
dark souls 2 scholar first sin
stellaris
dirt rally
undertale
black mesa
the witness
total war warhammer
one piece pirate warriors 3
xcom 2
ryse son of rome
steamworld heist
project CARS
trails in the sky
war hammer vermitincide
dragons dogma
the escapists
stardew valley
broforce
styx master of shadows
hotline miami 2
grim dawn
the banner saga
wwe 2k16
call of duty black ops 3
van hellsing
poi
kentucky route zero

+5x more indie titles


I missed out on (by joining too late)
rocket league
the forest
mad max
oddworld
south park stick of truth
this war is mine
alien isolation
talos principle
grim fandango





Honestly I love it. You could easily get away with never buying games and just playing what comes through on humble monthly. In all honesty it is too many games though to the extent I'll never play them..
 
I am fine, got an i7 8700 with 16gb 3200 DDR4 ram and the 980, I can play at 1440p with high settings most of the time. I like the flexibility and the breadth of games PC offers, such as a strategy and tactical games consoles lack. I will buy a 20xx or AMD equivalent when they are out.

Yea that's one game type i don't play. I like to watch strategy games but hate playing them. PC is still my go to system just wish the price of a good build was not so high. 6 years ago when i built this system it cost me just over a grand to be at the high end. Now it's pretty much doubled but i still plan on building a new PC at some point. Keep making a build on OCUK only to think it's way over priced so back out. It does not help that i want a new monitor as well so whole thing with top graphics card would be £2500 and up. Very nice setup even with the gtx980 and should be a perfect rig to slot in the new gen gpu's.
 
Yea if you are used to high refresh rate gaming you might want more. Have not taken that leap yet so 60fps feels pretty good to me.

See, if this was the sentiment and reasonable approach with which everyone posted, this thread wouldn't have the problems it has - we've both stated a preference/opinion but at the same time accepted the other persons as valid for them.

I've taken the same approach with every other poster, I've openly accepted and congratulated people that have decided to switch to console for whatever their reason, however as soon as those of us that consider ourselves "PC gamers" have expressed a preference for PC, we've been derided as being "elitist" or "part of the yacht club", despite pointing out it has nothing to do with money and that you could PC game for more or less than some spend on consoles and that plenty of people on here do exactly that, as a preference, a personal opinion.

Even the OP has now chipped in and confirmed that he is not part of the "console revolution" wishing death on PC gaming and has bought a console and is still planning on getting an xx80ti (that it taking so long to come out is his only real gripe) - the "if I can't have it no one can" mentality, and the "us vs. them" approach that some of us are being accused of, even when we very clearly state things as an "I, in my opinion" etc.

I mean, when one person states an example which compares GPU's/Gaming PC's to other items in the same price range, and is responded to with "yes I'm sure everyone could afford a yacht if they never eat"... I mean, I just... how does anyone think that is a reasonable and well thought out response? What are they hoping to achieve other than animosity?
 
I am mostly a PC gamer..... but where is this yacht club membership i am part of...... i need to make use of it :D

(mind you that would be even more of my limited gaming time gone!. )

TBH - and this is a light hearted post and am not looking for a big argument but - i think tribal thinking is part of human nature and is something most of us get involved in in 1 subject or another.... be it videogames, politics, religion or what ever. Most people like to be part of a group with similar views and tend to want to be agreed with. Often when people of another camp disagree strongly there is a temptation to respond negatively.

generally i *try**** not to get involved and just put my views down without taking sides but i would be a liar if i said i had never been part of the cbm Amiga vs Atari ST debates (Amiga all the way) or the speccy vs C64.

you should see the vitriol on the oculus rift forums with Vive users saying how rubbish the rift is or how it is going to fail imminently etc. possibly the same goes on on Vive forums from rift users but i dont post there as i dont have one.

As long as there are 2 view points on anything, there will be those who want to argue about it..... then you get those who look at all of us and just think "what a bunch of losers still playing videogames in their.......... (40s in my case).

**** I try... I dont always succeed.
 
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See, if this was the sentiment and reasonable approach with which everyone posted, this thread wouldn't have the problems it has - we've both stated a preference/opinion but at the same time accepted the other persons as valid for them.

I've taken the same approach with every other poster, I've openly accepted and congratulated people that have decided to switch to console for whatever their reason, however as soon as those of us that consider ourselves "PC gamers" have expressed a preference for PC, we've been derided as being "elitist" or "part of the yacht club", despite pointing out it has nothing to do with money and that you could PC game for more or less than some spend on consoles and that plenty of people on here do exactly that, as a preference, a personal opinion.

Even the OP has now chipped in and confirmed that he is not part of the "console revolution" wishing death on PC gaming and has bought a console and is still planning on getting an xx80ti (that it taking so long to come out is his only real gripe) - the "if I can't have it no one can" mentality, and the "us vs. them" approach that some of us are being accused of, even when we very clearly state things as an "I, in my opinion" etc.

I mean, when one person states an example which compares GPU's/Gaming PC's to other items in the same price range, and is responded to with "yes I'm sure everyone could afford a yacht if they never eat"... I mean, I just... how does anyone think that is a reasonable and well thought out response? What are they hoping to achieve other than animosity?

Yea i get what you are saying. I have gamed on all systems for years with PC being my preference since i first got one in 2001 so i do have a pretty balanced opinion on the matter. I think there is a lot of anger going around atm due to the ever increasing prices and the stagnation of the mid range. Some probably think they are being priced out of there favorite platform and just want to give the middle finger to everything PC due to this.
 
I am mostly a PC gamer..... but where is this yacht club membership i am part of...... i need to make use of it :D

(mind you that would be even more of my limited gaming time gone!. )

TBH - and this is a light hearted post and am not looking for a big argument but - i think tribal thinking is part of human nature and is something most of us get involved in in 1 subject or another.... be it videogames, politics, religion or what ever. Most people like to be part of a group with similar views and tend to want to be agreed with. Often when people of another camp disagree strongly there is a temptation to respond negatively.

generally i *try**** not to get involved and just put my views down without taking sides but i would be a liar if i said i had never been part of the cbm Amiga vs Atari ST debates (Amiga all the way) or the speccy vs C64.

you should see the vitriol on the oculus rift forums with Vive users saying how rubbish the rift is or how it is going to fail imminently etc. possibly the same goes on on Vive forums from rift users but i dont post there as i dont have one.

As long as there are 2 view points on anything, there will be those who want to argue about it..... then you get those who look at all of us and just think "what a bunch of losers still playing videogames in their.......... (40s in my case).

**** I try... I dont always succeed.

Humans eh... It’ll never change.
 
Humans eh... It’ll never change.

I am mostly a PC gamer..... but where is this yacht club membership i am part of...... i need to make use of it :D

(mind you that would be even more of my limited gaming time gone!. )

TBH - and this is a light hearted post and am not looking for a big argument but - i think tribal thinking is part of human nature and is something most of us get involved in in 1 subject or another.... be it videogames, politics, religion or what ever. Most people like to be part of a group with similar views and tend to want to be agreed with. Often when people of another camp disagree strongly there is a temptation to respond negatively.

generally i *try**** not to get involved and just put my views down without taking sides but i would be a liar if i said i had never been part of the cbm Amiga vs Atari ST debates (Amiga all the way) or the speccy vs C64.

you should see the vitriol on the oculus rift forums with Vive users saying how rubbish the rift is or how it is going to fail imminently etc. possibly the same goes on on Vive forums from rift users but i dont post there as i dont have one.

As long as there are 2 view points on anything, there will be those who want to argue about it..... then you get those who look at all of us and just think "what a bunch of losers still playing videogames in their.......... (40s in my case).

**** I try... I dont always succeed.

+1

Always someone to argue and try to bring you down. Mostly to try justify what they have.

If someone wants to spend £1000 on a Ti, or car, or whatever then that's their choice ultimately.
 
+1

Always someone to argue and try to bring you down. Mostly to try justify what they have.

If someone wants to spend £1000 on a Ti, or car, or whatever then that's their choice ultimately.
Correct, your money your choice. Who actually cares what any one else thinks? Not me personally. I work hard for my money, away from home for weeks on end and would spend my money how I see fit.:)
 
+1

Always someone to argue and try to bring you down. Mostly to try justify what they have.

If someone wants to spend £1000 on a Ti, or car, or whatever then that's their choice ultimately.

Yea it's there money and they are free to do what they like with it.

Interestingly though my first PC back in 2001 was my most expensive at just under £2000 but also included a monitor. My second and third cost around £1200 and were both high end at the time. The first was a pre built so probably would have been around the same had it been home built. So with that being said i know PC parts have not gone up to much until the last few years. It just shows that with Intel and Nvidia having just about a monopoly what we might face in the future. When there was good competition all those years up to the first i7 prices stayed pretty similar. With this in mind that's why i think parts atm are a rip off. It's most likely why others that have been on the pc long enough also think they are getting ripped off and won't buy whether they have the funds or not. Again though for those that don't care and will buy whatever the price that's up to them and they most likely work hard enough to do what they like.
 
I’ll be refreshing my rig when cannon lake and the new ti come around, I’ll be keeping storage and PSU, but will change everything else.

It’ll likely cost £2,500 and last 3 to 4 years. For me that’s money well spent, and that’s my prerogative. I’ll probably get a second hand ti when the next gen comes around too, so it’ll probably last even longer.

I totally get why people opt for consoles, or cheaper setups, but not why people feel the need to trash someone else’s choice...

Someone made the point about justifying their own spending, and I think that’s spot on.
 
I like playing games. I purchase a console when it gives me the opportunity to play games I couldn't otherwise, hence why I own a PS4 Pro and a Switch, but not an Xbox 1 as to my knowledge, there will never be an Xbox exclusive that does not come to the PC - this is/was part of Microsoft's thinking to a unified platform between PC & Xbox.
 
I like playing games. I purchase a console when it gives me the opportunity to play games I couldn't otherwise, hence why I own a PS4 Pro and a Switch, but not an Xbox 1 as to my knowledge, there will never be an Xbox exclusive that does not come to the PC - this is/was part of Microsoft's thinking to a unified platform between PC & Xbox.

+1 i don't see any reason to buy an xbox due to the games being available on PC.
 
Your thread got hijacked by people making it about consoles being exactly the same as PC but cheaper.
Said absolutely nobody.

You just can't help yourself, can you? :p

But by all means please quote one of us who said what you're trying to imply we said. Go on, I dare you ;)

I for one believe I said that consoles and PCs mostly play the same games. I also said consoles are great value for money. But in countless posts I said that if money is not a problem, a PC can always be more powerful if you are prepared to pay the price.

Honestly, for some people, admitting that a console is a seriously good value proposition seems to be worse than losing a limb :p


People have been whinging about gpu prices for at least 10 years, I'm not expecting that to change, i also don't see why people riling up age old "console vs PC" wars should be seen as acceptable on a PC forum either. See previous examples.

People should be capable of putting their opinion across without resorting to ad hominem attacks and openly stating they will ignore what someone has actually written in order to create big long strawman posts. But here we are.

The whole thrust of "the argument" in this thread was "hey, this guy gets it, see people are giving up PC gaming entirely to switch to consoles"... but as I tried to point out and he has now clarified, he's bought a console (with Extra money) to wait on a new xx80ti. So not at all what people have been arguing, the complete opposite in fact.

Just... LOL.

So now you're the victim... :D :D :D

I don't think it matters what I write in response to you, since you pretty much invented an alternative "me" as a fictitious character to "debate" against. Complete with entirely fictitious arguments. Not just me either.

And not content with having entirely made-up people to argue with, you've also claimed that "nobody" agrees with us, and we should all go elsewhere :p

It's comical but also sad :(

Now, please remind the room about the time I said everybody should sell their Titans because consoles are faster :p
 
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Because money?

If you buy a console second hand, it's not that bad.

I bought a Wii bundle second hand about 4 years agao from a friend, paid £60 for the console, two Wii remotes, 10 games, and other accessories.

It doesn't have to break the bank if you can wait a bit after original launch.
 
Consoles and PCs have their strengths and weaknesses. Why not own both?
I think this debate is more about those who are in the position of choosing between a console or a GPU upgrade/ PC rebuild.

Those who choose to buy (eg) a PS4 will indeed end up with both. A gaming PC with something like a 760, 970, 290, etc. And a PS4.

The problem is that to upgrade your 290/ 970 (etc), you're looking at about £500 minimum spend atm. Any less than that currently and you get a side-grade.

And that's the crux of the problem. You could have bought a 290 at about £250 (that wasn't EOL pricing either). Several years later, an equivalent card has been about £350 anywhere up to £450 for AMD 580s.

To upgrade your 290 you needed a £500+ card. When you were starting with a £250 card, that illustrates the problems we're facing.
 
Every thread in graphics seems to end up with the same console discussion. It’s getting very tedious.

Consoles are cheaper, computers are more powerful, flexible and much more expensive.

Can we move on now?
 
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