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@Kaapstad is hardly going to get his kicks by buying 4 PS4 Pros. This is the GPU section; no-one's interested in your console pish, or your 4 page essay style posts.
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Sick of waiting for NVidia refresh...
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I count (2000/2001) EverQuest to be amongst the best gaming experiences, offline or online, I've ever had on any platform.
So I'm not utterly/entirely dismissive of online on PC. But even in that game there were tons of cheats, from the small-fry macroers - who automated entire teams of bots to replace the need for grouping - to the out-and-out hackers who could kill anything, anywhere on the map, without taking a point of damage. (Ghost killing it was called iirc).
There were also the item/coin dupers and exploiters who distorted the economy and cornered the market by foul means.
Before that some of my earliest experiences and memories of online PC games are of cheaters
Eg in Diablo all the guys who hacked their characters, made low-level characters who were immune to all damage, could kill any other player, and nick all their stuff
Competitive online play has never interested me that much, so I largely avoid it. But certainly when I *have* participated, and in all honesty here (no exaggeration at all), in every online PC game I've tried I've encountered a lot of cheating. It's often not hard to detect, because where punishments are lax people are quite blatant about it.
Also talking of exaggeration, I like how my previous post turned into "I'm so crap I have to believe everyone else is cheating". Lol. Chinese whispers are great, aren't they?
So I'm not utterly/entirely dismissive of online on PC. But even in that game there were tons of cheats, from the small-fry macroers - who automated entire teams of bots to replace the need for grouping - to the out-and-out hackers who could kill anything, anywhere on the map, without taking a point of damage. (Ghost killing it was called iirc).
There were also the item/coin dupers and exploiters who distorted the economy and cornered the market by foul means.
Before that some of my earliest experiences and memories of online PC games are of cheaters
Eg in Diablo all the guys who hacked their characters, made low-level characters who were immune to all damage, could kill any other player, and nick all their stuff Competitive online play has never interested me that much, so I largely avoid it. But certainly when I *have* participated, and in all honesty here (no exaggeration at all), in every online PC game I've tried I've encountered a lot of cheating. It's often not hard to detect, because where punishments are lax people are quite blatant about it.
Also talking of exaggeration, I like how my previous post turned into "I'm so crap I have to believe everyone else is cheating". Lol. Chinese whispers are great, aren't they?
Ah so you also speak for "everyone" then?
I see you’re good in conversations.
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Sorry mate but this statement is what's wrong with the PC elite's lol. Enjoy the best games with actual good game play. Zelda on the Switch was probably my favorite game last year, no 4k max ultra crap needed as the experience is what counts more.
Wow, you really did!!!
Should be a nice upgrade over my old 980Ti. Now I just need EVGA to pull out a nice Hybrid cooler
Or I might have to do it myself.
I got tired of waiting also...but as a result I went insane.
Good on you mate, too bitter a pill for me to swallow, but I hope you really enjoy it
ShowEQ was the most popular hack tool for EQ back then. I agree with you, EQ gave me some of the best gaming experience I've had, hacks and all.
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Thats great, but this isn't the console section, there is another section of the forum or whole other forums for console players to gush over each other with stupid hyperbole.
I wasnt ever assuming the next gen would be cheaper - but I won't pay the prices for the current gen which still won't give me the performance I want - next gen will and I will pay for it, but I am not waiting any longer.
I went with the XBox One X specifically because many of the games I play are buy once play on PC or XBox - so when NVidia get their fingers out of their asses and release new hardware, I can come back to my PC and keep playing the games I enjoy without spending more money.
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it depends on the game... however i cant remember the last time i played a BF game without at least a few players getting kicked for cheating via the anti cheating software.... which is great but normally is at the end of the game and has already grossly unbalanced the game.. IF Devs issued permanent account bans it would maybe be better but even then when the games get cheap, or are F2P it wont stop it.
on the xbox 360 it was eventually hacked to run unsigned code however it was not long before MS detected it and account banned the CONSOLE from ever going online again.(eventually they turned it up to 11 and made the console corrupt any game save which was detected on the console... harsh for those who had their profile on a memory stick and put it in a mates flagged machine, MS took no prisoners)........ that is the kind of control which keeps (most) people honest in most games..... now, imagine if your steam account (or origin/uplay/oculus account) was perm banned from online play from all games if caught cheating in a MP game... again that would clean things up, but 1) the detection would have to be robust with no false hits and 2) the whining from the entitled brats caught cheating would be deafening. I am not even a competitive gamer compared to most but i only want to play with honest folk. Cheat all you like in single player games but MP just aint cricket.......
unfortunately MS dont seem to care as much about the PC platform... possibly because it does not have the xbox live cash cow that the console has.
wow we really are desperate waiting for the new NV cards to digress this much
I have 4k Monitor, 4k TV, Macs, PCs etc. what I won't do is downgrade my monitor to play PC games at a reasonable refresh rate (which is what I would have to do unless I want to run a ridiculously expensive SLI rig with hardware that is soon to be replaced with a new generation). Money isn't the issue, principle is.
Same here. I could buy a 1080ti or two if sli worked. But what’s the point in getting old tech when new shiny one is around the corner?
I never implied anything, I quite clearly stated I was bought XBox One X because I was sick of waiting for NVidia to release nextgen - would be nice if you didn't falsely represent what I said, thanks.
No thread isn't about that at all. The thread is about NVidia taking too long to release next gen so that those of us who bought a 4K screen over 18 months ago can actually start to enjoy games on it without having to buy multiple GPUs to run in SLI which is buggy as hell and soon to be obsolete. I was never comparing console to pc - I want to game and I can game on the XBox One X with a more pleasant experience than I can on a PC currently without buying 1080Ti's in SLI only to have a new 11** come out in 3-9 months which will do the same job for a lot less money.As I said there are a few compromise's and CPU performance is certainly one of them, but then this can do things the console cannot as well, for example it comes with a Blu-ray writer and a keyboard and mouse and that is without even talking about upgradeability.
The whole thread argument seems to be, well if you compromise the graphic's quality the console can be just as effective as a PC only much cheaper, I just wanted to show that, if you can use that argument then so can the PC master race, the above PC will play games with reduced settings just fine, as well as all the benefits that come with a PC over a console.