Significant age gaps in relationships

When I first encountered the woman whom I eventually married, I had no idea how old she was, and I don’t think that I gave it a thought, she was obviously younger than me, but she was certainly in her twenties.
I was in a pub, and I was attracted by this young woman’s face, she was no classic beauty, but she was undeniably attractive, with shoulder length auburn hair, a sprinkling of freckles, and vaguely almond eyes, when she smiled, her eyes almost disappeared, in fact the first time I introduced her to my French relatives, one said, “Est-elle à moitié chinoise?” (Is she a little Chinese?”)
Trying to think of something innocuous to open with, and at the same time assess her age and social skills, I toyed with asking her opinion of Nietzsche over Kierkegaard, but realised that I’d expose myself as a charlatan, so I casually enquired what white wine was she drinking, she replied “Viognier.”
I then said, “Would you like to try the Chablis?”
She knocked me off balance by saying that she preferred Chardonnay, as it was more fruity, and that she found Chablis to be a tad acidic.
Christ I thought, I’m going for Mr. Sophistication, knows his way around a wine list, and getting beat at my own game by a girl.
Realising that she was no dummy, I rolled out the big guns, and asked if she was familiar with Indonesian cuisine, she wasn’t, so I suggested rijsttafel at a Shaftesbury Avenue restaurant sometime the following week.
It was in there, over after dinner glasses of genever, that I discovered that she was 22 to my 41.
Dropping her that night at her flat, I said that I’d enjoyed the evening, and thanked her for making an old man happy for a while.
She said, “Is that it, one kiss and goodbye?”
I said, “Why, what do you want?”
She said, “You make me smile, and I like that, I want you to keep making me smile.”
We married in 1994, now I make her laugh when I fall asleep in the afternoons, go to stand up, and almost fall over.
 
When I first encountered the woman whom I eventually married, I had no idea how old she was, and I don’t think that I gave it a thought, she was obviously younger than me, but she was certainly in her twenties.
I was in a pub, and I was attracted by this young woman’s face, she was no classic beauty, but she was undeniably attractive, with shoulder length auburn hair, a sprinkling of freckles, and vaguely almond eyes, when she smiled, her eyes almost disappeared, in fact the first time I introduced her to my French relatives, one said, “Est-elle à moitié chinoise?” (Is she a little Chinese?”)
Trying to think of something innocuous to open with, and at the same time assess her age and social skills, I toyed with asking her opinion of Nietzsche over Kierkegaard, but realised that I’d expose myself as a charlatan, so I casually enquired what white wine was she drinking, she replied “Viognier.”
I then said, “Would you like to try the Chablis?”
She knocked me off balance by saying that she preferred Chardonnay, as it was more fruity, and that she found Chablis to be a tad acidic.
Christ I thought, I’m going for Mr. Sophistication, knows his way around a wine list, and getting beat at my own game by a girl.
Realising that she was no dummy, I rolled out the big guns, and asked if she was familiar with Indonesian cuisine, she wasn’t, so I suggested rijsttafel at a Shaftesbury Avenue restaurant sometime the following week.
It was in there, over after dinner glasses of genever, that I discovered that she was 22 to my 41.
Dropping her that night at her flat, I said that I’d enjoyed the evening, and thanked her for making an old man happy for a while.
She said, “Is that it, one kiss and goodbye?”
I said, “Why, what do you want?”
She said, “You make me smile, and I like that, I want you to keep making me smile.”
We married in 1994, now I make her laugh when I fall asleep in the afternoons, go to stand up, and almost fall over.

A genuine question, do you not worry what it'll be like dying probably 20-30 years before she does? Nobody knows how long they'll be on this Earth for, but your remaining years are far far shorter than hers which are compounded by a shorter life expectancy rate of men versus women. She will likely live almost as long without you as she was with you, and thats assuming you live a long and normal life.

I'm not trying to bash you for your choices, I am genuinely curious if it's something you've spoken about.

To me, this is where an age difference matters on whether the man or the woman are elder. An older wife would expect a similar life expectancy to a younger man.
 
A genuine question, do you not worry what it'll be like dying probably 20-30 years before she does? Nobody knows how long they'll be on this Earth for, but your remaining years are far far shorter than hers which are compounded by a shorter life expectancy rate of men versus women. She will likely live almost as long without you as she was with you, and thats assuming you live a long and normal life.

I'm not trying to bash you for your choices, I am genuinely curious if it's something you've spoken about.

To me, this is where an age difference matters on whether the man or the woman are elder. An older wife would expect a similar life expectancy to a younger man.
What difference does it make? He's having a great time now, once he's dead, he's dead.
 
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A genuine question, do you not worry what it'll be like dying probably 20-30 years before she does?

Pretty sure he's already in his 80s so according to some on here at deaths door anyway.
It would have been his wife who would have made those hard decisions of living on her own for 30+ years.
 
A genuine question, do you not worry what it'll be like dying probably 20-30 years before she does?

Honestly, I think I'd worry less if my wife was significantly younger than me. Let's say I pop my clogs in my early to mid 70s - fairly likely given my height and the longevity of men in my family - my wife will then be living another 15 or 20 years but I'd guess that women that age are going to struggle to find new partners. If she was in her 50s when I die, I think she'd be a lot more likely to find someone else and have a nice, happy life with them.
 
Because his posts all seem to imply he loves his wife dearly, and most of us care about what will happen to our loved ones when we die :)

I do love her dearly, and I’ve given enough thought over the years as to how she’ll make out when I inevitably shuffle off this mortal coil before her.
She won’t want for a thing, and if the Covid thing is gone, she’ll be kicking the gong around in New York City I expect, she never lost an opportunity to get on a big silver bird headed for JFK.

What difference does it make? He's having a great time now, once he's dead, he's dead.

Nail on head.
 
I can't wait for the usual "alpha male" rubbish to get posted again. The "incel" crap should be along shortly too.

Of course betas will say that a man 10 years + dating a girl in her 20s is pervy, rapey, ect ect because they themselves cannot/could not get a girl themselves when they were in their 20s (unless she was bigger than them).

:D :D :D :D

OCUK doesn't generally disappoint....

dont know if this is a joke or not. Alpha/ Beta BS doesn't even factor into it. those fat old slobs with a wife or gf 20 years younger aren't alpha, they are wealthy.

But being wealthy is kinda "alpha" tbh... I mean in humans someone can be "alpha" in some circumstances and not in others... some fat banker or lawyer might be awesome at their job, on track to become a managing director/partner and earn a ton of money but be a complete sack of **** if a big war broke out and they were conscripted into the army.

I'm not sure it is a useful term tbh... though it isn't completely far off the mark to use it - women broadly are attracted to things that might be considered "alpha" like height, a muscular physique, wealth and status in addition to basic qualities that go with physical attraction like facial symmetry, clear skin etc...


It's silly from a British perspective but can understand why Americans have an issue with it. The UK mindset is 16+ is legal (obvs we don't expect a huge age gap and 17/24 is pushing it a bit but meh... they're over the age of consent), they can date here, get married (with parental permission in England or just travel to Scotland) the US mindset however is that below 18 is a "minor", this was a 24 year old dating a minor, even though in less than a year of dating she's an adult there.

A 7 year age gap is hardly a drama, if they'd met now at 22 and 29 then no one would care, it's just the US angle/technicality of her having been 17 and a minor when he was 24 that causes the controversy.
 
I work with an early 30's girl in a longterm relationship with a chap who's early 60's, met him once, seemed like a nice guy. She's attractive, earns decent money in engineering etc. I think love conquers all. Only sad thing is her parents won't have anything to do with him.
 
Of course betas will say that a man 10 years + dating a girl in her 20s is pervy, rapey, ect ect because they themselves cannot/could not get a girl themselves when they were in their 20s (unless she was bigger than them).

I remember a strange tweet on twitter last year, some beta wearing a horse head.. was rallying a twitter hate mob because a 29 year old man was going to marry a 23 year old girl.


As this "beta" stuff is only relevant to animals, I can only assume you're a wolf.

You're this guy aren't you?

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She likes all Chardonnay, except for Chablis?

Maybe she meant something like this, don’t ask me, I know little about wines other than I like some Viognier wines.
I prefer Absolut and Stolychnya vodkas over some others, but that’s where my preferences end.

Chablis is a wine that is not oaked, or has seen very little oak and puts forward the delicate citrus fruit and sedimentary nature of the Chardonnay grape and goes very well with shellfish. The Chablis region is very much a cooler climate and thus the wine is quite acidic and perhaps even closer in characteristics to Sauvignon Blanc than the tropical flavoured, bigger Australian and Californian Chardonnay.
 
As this "beta" stuff is only relevant to animals, I can only assume you're a wolf.

You're this guy aren't you?

I like his tshirt. If he paired it with a Louis Vuitton man bag and a Gucci snake belt, he would be killing it

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