People will always find ways to kill themselves, or hurt others. You'd have to ban gravity and rocks.
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People will always find ways to kill themselves, or hurt others. You'd have to ban gravity and rocks.
Wow bro stop talking nonsense we just need stricter laws because a crime was committed that was already against the law
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'BREAKING: Five people who died in Plymouth last night have been named by police. Maxine Davison, 50, mother of the gunman. 3-year-old Sophie Martyn and her dad, Lee Martyn, 40. Stephen Washington, 59. Kate Shepherd, 66. Gunman Jake Davison, 22, also died.'
Obviously not if a woman hating incel black pill extremist with questionable mental health issues is able to go on a killing spree with a legally held firearm
Short of.banning all guns what is your solution? This sort of incident is already incredibly rare in the UK. Knee-jerk reactions will only cause the overwhelming majority to suffer.
Yep, pretty much. The bit in bold, I wasn't sure what the current rules were so had a quick look
https://www.shootinguk.co.uk/shotgu...ertificate/depression-and-gun-ownership-50713
Seems a bit wooly around depression and stress, no statutory requirement for disclosure until renewal of the licence and with doctors
Maybe could tighten that up a bit.
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Yes.
Something like a 3 year old and her dad, 2 shot but not killed, then 2 further killed. Numbers don't add up though as he also killed his mum.
Edit: some sites are counting himself as the 6th victim.
I'd argue it at least gives more time for him to dwell on what he's about to do which may possibly be all that is required to put an end to it.
Course that's pretty hopeful thinking.
Why aren't they?
Time locked safes and a decent alarm same as any safe deposit place.
When they're all in one place the police know to respond heavily and quickly
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Illustrates my point though, there are a lot of 'normal' folk who think like this nut case and they aren't being condemned. Read the dating thread in GD FFS.
He can't remove it from the range? If you want it at a different range you pay secure transport and meet it there
He might turn it on others there but like spectators at race track they know the risks.
Range some distance from buit up areas (assuwthis anyway for the noise?)
Means rapid polic response is possible before he reaches children
What's your point?
Ban all guns for recreational use imho.
If you like target practise and shooting then get a good air rifle!
''overwhelming majority to suffer''
lol
Very few people have firearms licence
Mods must condemn.
Hopeful but entirely logical - whilst nowhere near the same level of extreme behaviour, i'm sure plenty of us have felt angry and an impulsive urge to do something stupid in that anger which rapidly subsides when you have a few minutes to cool off.
It's probably not really that far fetched to think the act of having to drive 15 minutes to the range to collect a weapon could cause someone to think themselves back down (or even that someone serving them could stop them, refuse to give them the gun or report a concern etc.)
It'll be interesting to find out if that sort of arrangement would have made any difference at all here but it's not an entirely illogical change to make regardless for things like 'sport' guns, it would be an improvement.
@Thekwango think I'm in agreement with you now 
Horrid events that unfolded. We do have strict gun laws but this could have been avoided via the method if the appropriate action was taken on the raise of his mental health.
Sad to see the victims. Specially the dad and the 2 year old. The husband and wife and Facebook profiles and a loving family torn apart
Having a store at a range is not going to work. As a large population for example of shotgun certs are used for game shooting, pest control like wood pidgeon control, rabbit control , then I guess you do have the clay sporters.
Sad to see the victims. Specially the dad and the 2 year old. The husband and wife and Facebook profiles and a loving family torn apart
Having a store at a range is not going to work. As a large population for example of shotgun certs are used for game shooting, pest control like wood pidgeon control, rabbit control , then I guess you do have the clay sporters.
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If you were the father of the 3 year old child (both died) you wouldn't want to be armed?
I knew you were man, we just couldn’t find the common ground to agree as such@Thekwango think I'm in agreement with you now
media: joking aside, to me it makes perfect sense. Firearms for leisure purposes are stored at a designated gun club of owners choice. farmers and the likes who may need access to a gun for professional use would obviously be exempt and would still be able to securely store at home.
it’s a mild inconvenience for the casual gun enthusiast but puts an extra barrier to using one for killing. Not sure why some folk are getting so uptight about the idea.
People like you really need to stop watching Hollywood films!
Even if he was armed the probability of him being able to un-holster remove safety take aim and kill before being shot is vanishingly small!