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Siliconslave's how to make espresso thread

Discussion in 'La Cuisine' started by Siliconslave, Jun 17, 2008.

  1. Grimley

    Soldato

    Joined: Nov 18, 2007

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    Location: Deepest Darkest Essex!!

    Heads up folks. 15% off everything here. Code GIRO100 , no idea when this code will expire. Bought 500G of their decaf. Their blend is supposed to be pretty good but I did try their Gelena Abya (its gone now) at LCF17 last month & that was good.

    https://www.crankhousecoffee.co.uk/
     
  2. jpaul

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    some favourable comments on their ch7 blend
    but why can't they be upfront on shipping costs ? if you do not live in Exeter (or maybe riding the Giro)

    [ hope these folks realise they live or die by standard of web site - shopify, typekit, google-analytics toolkits lol
    ... but if the likes of Waitrose fails to render from time to time what hope for the rest. - should not need 16GB RAM to buy coffee - Keep It Simple - end of rant ]
     
  3. Jimbeam3678

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    Came through to me from Extract coffee on their mailing list. I gave it a go and its stunning for a summers day ; just need a summers day now
     
  4. Scam

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    Sounds like a fizzy iced-coffee? :p

    EDIT: I have to say I've always been a sucker for the Starbucks frapuccinos. That said, when it was warm last weekend I got one and was totally disappointed by how non-sweet and creamy it was! I think they've unfortunately paid attention to all the grief about them being 2000 calories or whatever they are and dialled it down alot :confused:

    Shame, unlike alot of the population that shovel them down 4 times a week, I rarely have them and enjoy the ridiculous sweetness, whipped cream etc (even though I always just have coffee flavoured)- just every now and again. Coming from a 'proper' coffee fan it's a bit of a guilty pleasure. But that one I had was just meh :o:(
     
  5. Raymond Lin

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    I have the odd Starbuck, twice a month. Don't apologise for it and I enjoy it. I love their frap too, it's a treat and it is a treat considering it is so calorific.

    When I am no holiday I always go to Starbucks...the reason being they are consistent across the globe in their taste, it might not be amazing coffee but I find it perfectly acceptable. Besides, my go to drink there is a Vanilla Soya Latte, you can use the best beans and it won't make much difference with the soya and vanilla flavour masking it all.
     
  6. jpaul

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  7. Raymond Lin

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    I think even Italy has a Starbuck now....and no, I didn't go to Starbucks in Italy and I've been there 3 times.
     
  8. nantucket66

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    I need some advice on what to upgrade next with my coffee paraphernalia!

    I have a small mokka pot, an aeropress, a krups milk frother (about £100) and a delonghi burr grinder (basic one £35 on the rainforest).

    I can make a pretty good flat white (in my humble opinion!), but as ever I want more. I alternate between the MP and the AP, week with one of them and vice versa.

    To take things up a notch where shall I start, better grinder? Get a Sage machine? or something else?
    Every now and again I'll get a flat white somewhere which blows me away and I want to be able to do this at home (or get closer to it)
    Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated!
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2017
  9. Edinho

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    I'd say natural progression is on to a Gaggia or a Rancilio silvia and the like.
     
  10. nantucket66

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    Thanks for that I'll take a look. Are they the 2 brands/machines of choice currently? I had been looking at the Sage machine at £549.00, it 'looks' good, but I don't actually know whether it is or whether it's worth the extra money over a Silvia? The Gaggia range is massive, any recommendations?

    If I spent that sort of money on a machine would I need a better grinder to get the best out of it?
    I know the Sage has an integrated grinder but I've know idea whether it's up to the job compared to a separate one. If a better grinder is a good call I'll do that first, just so I don't have a drop too much money in one go.

    Is a Baratza Virtuoso overkill?
     
  11. Royal Fleet

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    I have the Sage machine and am very pleased with it. Whether it is better than the Gaggia etc I don't know as I have never used both.

    The integrated grinder is good with a range of controls to be able to dial in what you need. The milk frother takes a bit of getting used to but then that is half the fun. Once you have cracked it it is like a coffee shop one.

    It also looks smart and is easy to maintain. Overall I am really glad I bought it.
     
  12. Jimbeam3678

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    Another vote for the Sage on here, had it for about a hour and nothing but good things to say about. Like most coffee machines keep on top of the cleaning and it will last you a long time.
     
  13. Egon

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    an hour?
     
  14. Jimbeam3678

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    A year, must have been auto correct or thats what I'm blaming it on!
     
  15. jpaul

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    for those watching the Giro - The choice of the professional peloton
    Rocket Espresso: the coffee machine of the WorldTour

    getting the sage duo pro ~£300 and
    is more flexible and similar cost/quality.
    and will probbaly find you can sell on the frother - wow they are not cheap !


    but the budget for coffee becomes the big player
    (I don't know if the ratio between the cost of a car and the petrol/insurance/rt/maintenance can compare)
     
  16. nantucket66

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    Thanks for the pointers, much appreciated.

    So what's the general consensus? With a budget of £550 would I better spending it all on the Sage and either using the integrated grinder (or the delonghi I have now)

    Or

    Buy the Duo or the Rancilio and spend the difference of £200 on a better grinder? What will make a better cup of coffee? Strong flat white is my go to coffee.

    I'd sell the frother on (will get £50 for it), one less gadget on the kitchen counter top is always a good thing!

    Thanks!
     
  17. aMb

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    I'd spend as much as you can on the grinder as this will have the biggest impact on what you can produce. The integrated grinder in the Sage would be a step up on what you have now, but unless you are sold on having a single integrated machine I'd be inclined to buy the Sage Duo and then get a separate grinder. For the grinder something like the Eureka Mignon or Compak K3 would be good if you can find that within budget.
     
  18. Begbie

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    I agree, I always want to go to little coffee shops. But the amount I've been to when the coffee is horrible and I know starbucks, albiet not amazing, it's always acceptable and always tastes the same.
     
  19. jpaul

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    the
    Eureka Mignon Mk 2 Instantaneous Grinder Auto/Manual - Red

    is rather nice, albeit £280, but might up-stage the Sage, solid re-sale,other-half approval too, (kitchen door is closed - Rocky is not as pretty )

    Liking the http://www.theespressoshop.co.uk web site, need some cosumables puly caff/gasket/burrs. - some interesting cups too http://www.theespressoshop.co.uk/en/Cups-Mugs-and-Glasses/c-16.aspx, might throw in some beans too.
     
  20. nantucket66

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    So between the Sage Duo and the Sage Barista Express what is the difference between the 2 models, other than the grinder?

    I'm sold on the idea of a good separate grinder (Baratza Virtuoso, Sage Pro Grinder or a Eureka, which tbc) but unless I'm blind I can't see much difference between the 2 espresso machines other than the obvious.

    All things being equal does the more expensive one make better coffee? From what I've read I'm guessing not with a good grinder?
     
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