Are you planning on using pre-ground coffee, and if so any brand(s) you would think to use, or would you want to get into grinding your own beans at some point?We need a new coffee machine after our old pod machine finally gave up. Wanting to move into espresso machine instead of the pods now. Any recommendations for an decent enough machine with a steam wand that is under £200?
Pre-ground to begin with and I will cause further upset by saying that I am not able to drink caffeine so what I would make for myself is decaf coffee. It isn't as serious to us as it likely is for most in the thread and we are really just after a decent enough machine with a steamer so we can make basic cafe style coffees at home. I just have no idea on what is a good brand having never had espresso machine.Are you planning on using pre-ground coffee, and if so any brand(s) you would think to use, or would you want to get into grinding your own beans at some point?
Stick with something pod-based. Pre-ground decaffeinated coffee and a lower-end machine is likely not going to end well.Pre-ground to begin with and I will cause further upset by saying that I am not able to drink caffeine so what I would make for myself is decaf coffee. It isn't as serious to us as it likely is for most in the thread and we are really just after a decent enough machine with a steamer so we can make basic cafe style coffees at home. I just have no idea on what is a good brand having never had espresso machine.
Trying to plan for a beginner machine next year when we move house and have some space. Keep telling myself the Gaggia Classic would be lovely, especially with the colours, and whilst it's not an essential to begin with the idea of upgrading does appeal
On the other hand, my OH is less fussed about that sort of thing, and I feel like the Bambino Plus is going to a a) be at least £150 or cheaper when they have deals on and b) be a lot more forgiving for her when she just wants an oat flat white
Thoughts?
automatic milf steam wand

If you don't mind a refurb unit (basically a return maybe that has a small dent) the sage machines can be found super cheap on ebay. I got an Oracle Touch for about £750 and they have most of the uk sold models at 30-60% off retail.I have a question for the coffee aficionados.
I currently have a Delonghi Magnifica Esam 4200 bean to cup, which I've had for the last 10 years (paid £220 for it back in 2015!). It's never made particularly good espresso (in fact, not very good at all), but my wife likes it because of its simplicity in making milk drinks. We have company a lot, and steaming a big jug of milk and churning out 4 lattes is a lot easier using a bean to cup, compared to my previous setup, which was a tiny electric grinder (single shot size!) and a little espresso machine.
If I drink longer drinks, I have a Hario hand grinder which I've been using for 2 years and an Aeropress which I've been using for 5 years. I'd probably continue to use the Aeropress, but would like to grind doses ad-hoc rather than grinding a week's worth of coffee because it's a bit of a nause now.
I'd like to upgrade, and would like to know what a good setup would be.
I can get a Sage Barista Pro for around the £500 mark which is a pretty reasonable amount of money if it lasts (the Delonghi is still going after 10 years!) but would I be better off getting a dedicated grinder and a separate espresso machine?
If so, what espresso machine + grinder could match the Barista Pro (ish) money, and cater for serving up multiple milk drinks when we have company?
I noticed Pact coffee do a Bambino for £298 with coffee which seemed very reasonable, but is it up to the task of multiple cups?