** SINGLE GTX 580 3GB VS SINGLE 7970 3GB REVIEW BY OcUK **

[JasonKnights]

The world needs more genius like you. How do you work it out?

The new 7900 series only just beating the existing 580s (non overclocked cards) the new series of nvidia cards when released will beat amd's offerings. And don't try to ridicule someone's comments. That's the whole point of these forums so everyone can have there say, your obviously an amd fan. Or just not done well enough in life

 

[titaniumx3]

The new 7900 series only just beating the existing 580s (non overclocked cards) the new series of nvidia cards when released will beat amd's offerings. And don't try to ridicule someone's comments. That's the whole point of these forums so everyone can have there say, your obviously an amd fan. Or just not done well enough in life

Ridiculing someones comments is preferable to ridiculing the person who writes them.

 

[Mr Krugga]

The new 7900 series only just beating the existing 580s (non overclocked cards) the new series of nvidia cards when released will beat amd's offerings. And don't try to ridicule someone's comments. That's the whole point of these forums so everyone can have there say, your obviously an amd fan. Or just not done well enough in life

Pathetic attempt at trolling.

 

[straxusii]

I wonder if any part of this statement is not complete rubbish?

While it is an inflamatory statement the kepler high end single part will probably comprehensively beat the 7970. 7970 is beating 580 by ~15% and Nvidia's die shrink refreshes historically have achieved 50-70% increase on the previous gen. Of course until we see it anything is possible and I'm quite sure AMD will have a 7970 refresh ready by then.

 

[Marine-RX179]

Do I spy a 2304 shader card...?

Perhaps it's a typo. Yes, it's definitely a typo...

That's TOTALLY not the sort of thing you would hold in reserve for Kepler's arrival...

Well, gotta say AMD is a genius at milking peoples' money. Selling new gen middle/mid-high single GPU card at premium top end price of £100 higher than they should be, and reserving true high card to launch at a later date and charge even more money for it...

If Nvidia decide to hold hands with AMD and launch their cards at simliar high price level, and leaving new £200 ish range cards with the same level performance as last gen £200 ish range cards, then the customers are truly getting ripped off, and forcing them to throw the towel on PC gaming (as if poor console porting wasn't bad enough, now with overpriced graphic cards to deal with as well). Just think about 5850 to 6950 to 7850/7870...performance wise it not moved/isn't gonna move much...so people that would spend no more than £200 ish on graphic card and typically upgrade once every two gens will gonna have to upgrade one every 3-4 gens instead, as the extra 5-10% speed of each gen simply isn't worth the money.

 

[Marine-RX179]

Ignore.

 

[Tekgun]

Well, gotta say AMD is a genius at milking peoples' money. Selling new gen middle/mid-high single GPU card at premium top end price of £100 higher than they should be, and reserving true high card to launch at a later date and charge even more money for it...

Can I use the "cool story bro" thingy here?
The 7970 is supposed to be around the same price as a 3GB 580, why would the ATI sell for less?

 

[Gibbo]

Hi there

New scores from myself.

1x 7970 @ 1140MHz core & 7100MHz memory (Stock voltage & Stock cooler)

I've managed to unlock the clocks a little more by using an older version of MSI afterburner (1.6.0 Beta 5). Voltage is still locked though.

The maximum stable and visual corruption free I've managed is 1140MHz core and 7100MHz memory.

This has given another 5-7% performance boost over the previous OC scores, very impressed.

 

[Marine-RX179]

Can I use the "cool story bro" thingy here?
The 7970 is supposed to be around the same price as a 3GB 580, why would the ATI sell for less?

Except that they are more expensive?

Anyway, my point is looking at the direction of how the pricing and performance headed, it is looking really bad for the customers.

3870->4870= wow!
4870->5850= oh my!
5850->6950= meh...
6950->7850/7870= yay, I can save a few quid on my energy bill a year. Extra performance? What extra performance?

 

[flopper]

Except that they are more expensive?

Anyway, my point is looking at the direction of how the pricing and performance headed, it is looking really bad for the customers.

3870->4870= wow!
4870->5850= oh my!
5850->6950= meh...
6950->7850/7870= yay, I can save a few quid on my energy bill a year. Extra performance? What extra performance?

The lower end is replaced with apu/cheap cpu/GPU etc...
left is 6850 and such territory and up.
but saving a few energy bills does matter in the long run.
Not individually but as a group.

 

[Skilty]

This still leaves me sitting on the fence, my 5850 handles SWToR and LoTRO ok. For any FPS it does the job at 1920x1080.

I guess it depends on the price it comes in at, i might dump the cash into quieting my rig instead.

 

[MooMoo444]

Not enough to tempt me

Very nice 580 beating performance though!

 

[Duff-Man]

Hi there

New scores from myself.

-snip-

The maximum stable and visual corruption free I've managed is 1140MHz core and 7100MHz memory.

This has given another 5-7% performance boost over the previous OC scores, very impressed.

Interesting...

Your max core clock is a lot lower than the spec for some of the third-party cards that have been floating around (1140 vs 1335Mhz), but your memory clock is far higher (7100 vs 5735Mhz).

Did you find 1140Mhz to be a "hard" limit on the GPU, or can you push it a little further if you drop the memory clock back down?

 

[Stanners]

Interesting...

Your max core clock is a lot lower than the spec for some of the third-party cards that have been floating around (1140 vs 1335Mhz), but your memory clock is far higher (7100 vs 5735Mhz).

Did you find 1140Mhz to be a "hard" limit on the GPU, or can you push it a little further if you drop the memory clock back down?

I think it is down to the V's and not having the option yet of unlocking it.

 

[Duff-Man]

I think it is down to the V's and not having the option yet of unlocking it.

Yes, quite possibly - this is why I was asking how the GPU clocks when the memory speed is capped. If we see better clocking from the GPU when the memory speed is fixed, then it indicates some kind of power-restriction is holding back overall clockspeeds (insufficient voltage, sag in current, something similar).

 

[Gibbo]

I've BIOS flashed one of the cards.

Seems 1225MHz & 7800Mhz is stable.

 

[Gibbo]

Hi there

Right now I AM IMPRESSED!!

New results at 1225MHz Core & 7800MHz RAM:-

Maximum GPU temperature at these clock speeds was 72c, mighty impressive indeed.

 

[glenimp617]

I've BIOS flashed one of the cards.

Seems 1225MHz & 7800Mhz is stable.

Gibbo, do you think over the next few months when the manufacturers get to grips with the GPU. We'll start to see MSI Lightening cards with really amazing overclocks? Thinking with their enhanced PCBs and Power Phases it should be an awesome card.

 

[Gibbo]

Gibbo, do you think over the next few months when the manufacturers get to grips with the GPU. We'll start to see MSI Lightening cards with really amazing overclocks? Thinking with their enhanced PCBs and Power Phases it should be an awesome card.

I think when such cards come out they will be doing circa 1300/8000 clocks with those on air.

Put them under water and we may see 1350-1400 / 8500 clocks.

So yes this card is an overclockers dream.

The 7950's especially the 1.5GB's when they come in March if they do could be the ultimate Xfire setup.

 

[Gibbo]

GTX 580 3GB OC vs ATI 7970 3GB OC


Right we've now pushed the ATI card to what I believe is its safe maximum of 1225MHz and 7800MHz core. There is still a tad more voltage to put through the card but this seems the sweet spot clock speed wise.

So with these new results, the ATI card is:-

43% Faster than an OC GTX 580 3GB at 1920x1080 in Heaven

50% Faster than an PC GTX 580 3GB at 2560x1600 in Heaven


So with the card overclocked to where it can go were seeing in this particular benchmark upto nearly 50% performance improvement over a GTX 580 3GB.