Skyline R34 GT-T

mrk1@1 said:
Some people need the practicality. I mean whats the point in having a car like a skyline etc, if you can't fill it full of Hot Chicks (well at least 3) to show it off too. Deffo a difficult one to pull off in the RX7
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From a practicality point of view it's hard to argue. I was however talking purely about the driving experience :)

Anyway, that's fine it you want to 'show off' to 14-year-old skets, because they are the only ones who are going to be blinded by the OMG SKYLINE thing...;)
 
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Nickg said:
read them before in work now not going to re-open. but look at the URL...to me that says lancer...

is the skyline designed as a rally car? skubaru, lancer? nope its not. its a refined cruiser...
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There's no Skyline in WRC... It's not a rally car, can't really compare it to Scoobs and Evos. There's lots of Skyline track racing cars about though.

TBH If Dexel would rather have his RX7 over a Skyline that's fine, and maybe there can be faster cars bought for 10k, however for an R34 skyline I think for 10k that's a bargain.
 
DreXeL said:
Yes, they make awesome race cars, and are a great base for creating a monster. But the fact remains that they aren't actually a great car from the factory. They are massively over-rated, that's a fact.
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To be fair that can be leveled at many so called quick cars, like cossies, scoobies, GTRs etc. I guess thats why there is such a large market for tuning parts
 
lancer - rally car.
rx7 - porsche (apparently) rival.
skyline - tourer.

how those people on the lancer forums can even compare a touring car to a rally car, is beyond me.
 
DreXeL said:
I couldn't help myself :(

Read this.

Then this (one of the best forum posts ever).
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Evo bias from an ex-Evo owner on an Evo forum? Well now I've seen everything! ;)

Skylines aren't rally monsters like Evos and Subarus, they've never been pitched as rally monsters so comparing the two is pointless. You might as well compare Evos/Scoobies to Porsches. If you want a car to fly around B-roads and the like the obvious choice are Evos/Scoobies. Anyone who sells an Evo 6 and buys an R34 GTR thinking they are the same thing is an idiot.

I'm not going to bother commenting on DreXeLs posts suffice to say I find his viewpoint (particularly given his assumed "Jap car nut" status) surprising. Next he'll be saying they "drive themselves" or something...

Take it from someone who has actually owned an R34 GTR for over a year - they're potent weapons. Admittedly in standard tune - by todays standards - they're not amazingly quick (just under sub-5 seconds standard I think), but they are so easy and cheap (relatively) to tune straight out of the box that this is largely irrelevant. A simple ECU remap will take you from 280 to 350bhp+ with no mechanical changes needed.

The above said, Skylines aren't track monsters and shouldn't be regarded as such. It's a straw man argument to suggest otherwise.

Funnily enough DreXeLs argument is an odd one because RX7s are neither track weapons (RWD and very tail happy) nor grand tourers (a relatively lowly top speed by comparison)... so its difficult to understand just where they fit in the grand scheme of things. They're simply not "as good" as either Evos, Scoobies or Skylines. This is probably why they're about 50% as expensive, you get what you pay for. ;) (joke)

Maybe he's bummed at not getting enough attention when driving through town at 5mph, when people in lowly Skylines get people flocking to make bowing gestures at the side of the road. A couple more neons and some more decals should sort that DreXeL... :p

DreXeL said:
Anyway, that's fine it you want to 'show off' to 14-year-old skets, because they are the only ones who are going to be blinded by the OMG SKYLINE thing...;)
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And not a hint of irony. Who's the one who goes to all these cruises, drives like a hooligan on public roads, has decals on their car, etc? And that's not showing off?
 
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Durzel said:
Evo bias from an ex-Evo owner on an Evo forum? Well now I've seen everything! ;)

Skylines aren't rally monsters like Evos and Subarus, they've never been pitched as rally monsters so comparing the two is pointless. You might as well compare Evos/Scoobies to Porsches. If you want a car to fly around B-roads and the like the obvious choice are Evos/Scoobies. Anyone who sells an Evo 6 and buys an R34 GTR thinking they are the same thing is an idiot.

I'm not going to bother commenting on DreXeLs posts suffice to say I find his viewpoint (particularly given his assumed "Jap car nut" status) surprising. Next he'll be saying they "drive themselves" or something...

Take it from someone who has actually owned an R34 GTR for over a year - they're potent weapons. Admittedly in standard tune - by todays standards - they're not amazingly quick (just under sub-5 seconds standard I think), but they are so easy and cheap (relatively) to tune straight out of the box that this is largely irrelevant. A simple ECU remap will take you from 280 to 350bhp+ with no mechanical changes needed.

The above said, Skylines aren't track monsters and shouldn't be regarded as such. It's a straw man argument to suggest otherwise.

Funnily enough DreXeLs argument is an odd one because RX7s are neither track weapons (RWD and very tail happy) nor grand tourers (a relatively lowly top speed by comparison)... so its difficult to understand just where they fit in the grand scheme of things. They're simply not "as good" as either Evos, Scoobies or Skylines. This is probably why they're about 50% as expensive, you get what you pay for. ;) (joke)

Maybe he's bummed at not getting enough attention when driving through town at 5mph, when people in lowly Skylines get people flocking to make bowing gestures at the side of the road. A couple more neons and some more decals should sort that DreXeL... :p

And not a hint of irony. Who's the one who goes to all these cruises, drives like a hooligan on public roads, has decals on their car, etc? And that's not showing off?
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owned imo.

Btw durzel you still have a high res pic of your old one? i had it up until my hd died a while back.
 
Durzel said:
I'm not going to bother commenting on DreXeLs posts suffice to say I find his viewpoint (particularly given his assumed "Jap car nut" status) surprising. Next he'll be saying they "drive themselves" or something...
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I don't hate Skylines, I have merely stated that they are over-rated. Have you actually read my posts?

Durzel said:
Funnily enough DreXeLs argument is an odd one because RX7s are neither track weapons (RWD and very tail happy) nor grand tourers (a relatively lowly top speed by comparison)... so its difficult to understand just where they fit in the grand scheme of things. They're simply not "as good" as either Evos, Scoobies or Skylines. This is probably why they're about 50% as expensive, you get what you pay for. ;) (joke)
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You are obviously massively mis-informed when it comes to the RX7 FD. It is not 'tail happy', it is widely regarded as a fantastic handling car. Yes, better than a Skyline. The RX7 actually makes a great car on the track. My car handles better than my Scooby did, and better than any Skyline I have come across. Indeed, ask Merlin how I was stuck to the rear end of his DC5 around a certain bend ;)

You clearly have no clue about the RX7, a car which is still widely regarded as one of the best handling cars ever made. Many describe it as handling like 'an overweight Caterham'. They were made as a light, no compromise, drivers sports car. So I think that answers your question 'Where do they fit in the grand scheme of things?'

Oh, and how the hell can a standard top speed of 165mph be described as 'lowly'?

Durzel said:
Maybe he's bummed at not getting enough attention when driving through town at 5mph, when people in lowly Skylines get people flocking to make bowing gestures at the side of the road. A couple more neons and some more decals should sort that DreXeL... :p
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I don't drive through town at 5mph, and I don't have any neons :)

Durzel said:
And not a hint of irony. Who's the one who goes to all these cruises, drives like a hooligan on public roads, has decals on their car, etc? And that's not showing off?
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I haven't been to a 'cruise' in about 8 years thanks, and you really need to let the decals thing go, it's getting boring :)
 
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Durzel, I dont understand your comments that the RX7 is not a track car.

It's a very capable as a track car, per countless Best Motoring vids.

:)
 
aha - drexel, is your car standard?

doesnt sound like it.. therefore why are u comparing the stock version of a skyline with a modified RX-7? RX-7 are nice cars, but do not inspire in the same way a skyline or lancer does...
 
DreXeL said:
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But your RX7 is modded isn't it? Whether your RX7 is planted on the road or not is academic really. You can't compare modded cars with how they came out of the factory and act like its comparing apples to apples.

Incidentally, a friend of mine who bought an RX7 recently crashed it on the 2nd day of ownership when he lost the back end going up a motorway onramp. Inexperience - certainly, but he isn't a crap driver. If unexpectedly drifting around corners on dry/moist roads floats your boat I'm sure its a great car. :)

(Note: I'm being facetious here - I'm sure the RX7 is a great car, and my comments about it being crap are about as valid as saying "omg skylines are so heavy and computers drive for you loosers!!!")

With a suitable budget you can sort the suspension on a Skyline and make it more potent on a track. Admittedly it still won't be competitive vs Evos, but it will be a lot better. There are LOADS of people who regularly track their Skylines on the GTR board, and I refuse to believe they do this whilst constantly gritting their teeth while everyone overtakes them. They're not as hopeless as you would like to convince everyone they are.

My point about suggesting you might say they "drive themselves" was a continuation of the points you made about it being "overweight", etc - the sort of comments I would expect from people who - for whatever reason - have a bias against them, and who probably have never driven one for any significant period of time (doing doughnuts in a carpark doesn't qualify Im afraid).

The bottom line - whether you're happy to admit it or not (whether you are is academic really) - Skylines have a healthy reputation and are a very popular car for owners and spectators alike, for a variety of reasons. Anyone who isn't an idiot should realise that this reputation didn't just come from nowhere. Skylines, whilst technologically average by todays standards, were awesome cars when they first came out, held impressive records on Nurburgring for a production car, etc. So, this "OMG Skylinezzz" fanbase has serious roots.
merlin said:
Durzel, I dont understand your comments that the RX7 is not a track car.

It's a very capable as a track car, per countless Best Motoring vids.

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I'm not saying its not a track car. I'm saying its probably not as good as Evos or Scoobies. But then what do I know - I haven't owned one, maybe my opinions are therefore tainted... sound like a familiar position? :) Like I said before, I was being facetious to prove a point.
Wayn0r said:
owned imo.

Btw durzel you still have a high res pic of your old one? i had it up until my hd died a while back.
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Here ya go:
http://www.superficial.net/gallery/Images/mycar2.jpg
http://www.superficial.net/gallery/Images/side2.jpg
 
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I wasn't actually talking about my car in particular, I was talking standard for standard.

Wayn0r said:

That video tends to make your claims entirely unfounded drexel.
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I was waiting for that vid to be dragged out. For every Best Motoring vis you find that shows the RX7 being beat by the Skyline, I'll find another that has the outcome the other way round. I have found those vids to be so inconsistant as to be worthless.
 
DreXeL said:
I wasn't actually talking about my car in particular, I was talking standard for standard.



I was waiting for that vid to be dragged out. For every Best Motoring vis you find that shows the RX7 being beat by the Skyline, I'll find another that has the outcome the other way round. I have found those vids to be so inconsistant as to be worthless.
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However they are all standard. Altho i will say, to get a 'real' idea for whats best you would have to have the same driver, with the same tyres and the same track conditions otherwise its really a faulted system.

:edit thanks durzel :)
 
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