Smart meter

hmm 2025 is a long way off .. we will see things change again by then .. by then they will prob be firing the coal up again as the wind power will be frozen oct to april ..
in the grand scheme of things it's getting colder by 2035 we will be -1c on global temps ..taking back the whole of the warming lie ..
but hey worry about a few ££ now ..
 
flea.rider said:
hmm 2025 is a long way off .. we will see things change again by then .. by then they will prob be firing the coal up again as the wind power will be frozen oct to april ..
in the grand scheme of things it's getting colder by 2035 we will be -1c on global temps ..taking back the whole of the warming lie ..
but hey worry about a few ££ now ..
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That crystal ball of yours must be good.
 
BigBoy said:
That's fine of your happy the way you are. Come 2025 you will have no choice but to have the meter replaced. Until then it's optional.

You either take the offer now and become another statistic that gets posed up to climate change, c02 emissions, carbon footprint and the like. Or in a couple of years you will have no choice but to have the meter replaced.

Unless your meter was produced in the last 5 years (I doubt it as it would be smart or semi smart if it was) it will under the weights and measure act require replacing in 2025. If your meter is older than 10 years it already requires replacing. There is no option to have that meter replaced with like for like or as we call it a legacy meter. It will be smart you will have no choice.

Part of the smart meter initiative is to replace the hundreds of meters that are out of sync (mechanical meters can read slower or faster when desynchronized) and in the process update all meters to one concurrent standard. There was a similar initiative back in the seventies so I'm told by some of the old guys I work with, but due to changes within the old electric boards 99% of th paperwork was lost so most companies haven't a clue what meter assets they have.

There is a hell of a lot more to the metering initiative than just that smart will save you money!
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My old spiny wheel meter was changed about 10 years ago for a small white box LCD display meter under some guise about the spiny meter being old and required changing or some other BS and I stupidity let them do it. How come I still see other properties about with old spiny wheel meters to this day? Why weren't those changed to white boxes 10 years ago too?

I doubt anyone is going to force there way in and change my meter in 2025.
 
LeeUK said:
My old spiny wheel meter was changed about 10 years ago for a small white box LCD display meter under some guise about the spiny meter being old and required changing or some other BS and I stupidity let them do it. How come I still see other properties about with old spiny wheel meters to this day? Why weren't those changed to white boxes 10 years ago too?

I doubt anyone is going to force there way in and change my meter in 2025.
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As I said most companies don't have a clue what assets are out there, very few people in the industry know what the serial numbers mean and know how to work out production year and last certification year.

Some 'spinny wheel' meters have been re-certified so a further 10-15 years of life from them is fine. Older style mechanical meters have a life expectancy of 25years after that they could be re-certified for a further 10-15 years. This involved each meter being painstakingly taken apart and rebuilt by hand, it was just not economical so didn't last very long as a project.
 
BigBoy said:
As I said most companies don't have a clue what assets are out there, very few people in the industry know what the serial numbers mean and know how to work out production year and last certification year.

Some 'spinny wheel' meters have been re-certified so a further 10-15 years of life from them is fine. Older style mechanical meters have a life expectancy of 25years after that they could be re-certified for a further 10-15 years. This involved each meter being painstakingly taken apart and rebuilt by hand, it was just not economical so didn't last very long as a project.
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Well surely if they don't know what is out there then they must be certain it is going to be an old wheel meter. As if it had been upgraded recently they would have records.
 
As I've said I'm in the process of getting a new incoming supply and therefore meter

When I first spoke to them they told me their records showed we had a spinny meter and it was noted for replacement in 1997 ......
 
Having a bit of an issue with my Eon switch and don't want to make a whole thread for it.

They asked me to send a gas and electric meter reading.

My gas one is in the outside box, but theres no readable electric meter anywhere on the property. My electric bill and readings were all automatic while on British Gas for 2.5 years.

I sent them an email explaining this.
 
BallistixOnZ490 said:
Having a bit of an issue with my Eon switch and don't want to make a whole thread for it.

They asked me to send a gas and electric meter reading.

My gas one is in the outside box, but theres no readable electric meter anywhere on the property. My electric bill and readings were all automatic while on British Gas for 2.5 years.

I sent them an email explaining this.
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There must be an electric meter somewhere surely. Under the stairs?
 
LeeUK said:
Well surely if they don't know what is out there then they must be certain it is going to be an old wheel meter. As if it had been upgraded recently they would have records.
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Maybe if the data was perfect, but it's far from it.

When you consider there are millions of meters out there that have been swapped between providers multiple times, especially of late with switching sites and the host of companies that have come and gone, and data gets lost and corrupted.

Another example is changing postcodes, that happens more often than you'd think, and meters get 'lost'.
 
Ok nvm I am blind.

There are two meter cabinets outside, I only just opened the electric one for the first time and got the reading.

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Is this the right number or am I meant to push buttons first?

YouTube video says its the right number.

I dont get why a house built in 2018 came with this smart electric meter, but only a standard manual meter for the gas.
 
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Cadder said:
We managed to dig out our "smart" monitor and as we're no longer with First Utility it doesn't even give us readings. I can almost understand why it isn't communicating with the new supplier but I just can't understand why it won't display what the meters display.

I checked the Pure Planet (new provider) website and they're looking to sort all the naff meters (1st gen?) out and get them working by the end of this year.

Looking at the smart meter situation as a whole, it's an understatement to say it all could have been thought out and implemented a lot better.
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What meters do you have? I was with First Utility who then became Shell Energy - they fitted the Secure Liberty 100 meters for both our gas and electricity. We recently switched to Eon and whilst the meters went dumb, the IHD still works. They've also started communicating again with Eon so must have been upgraded to the new firmware recently.
 
I might be persuaded to have a new meter put in if they upgrade my meter tails and install an isolation switch at the same time but I somehow doubt it. As that wouldn't benefit them, only the meter does.
 
I remember reading somewhere that the national grid has a huge load uptick during the first ad break of some soap (Eastenders or Corrie, or something) as the vast majority of homes put the kettle on simultaneously.

What I do like about smart meters with in-house displays is you can see what effect different things have, without having to stick a reader plug on every appliance (which is not really viable for things like washing machines, driers, etc).
 
krooton said:
I remember reading somewhere that the national grid has a huge load uptick during the first ad break of some soap (Eastenders or Corrie, or something) as the vast majority of homes put the kettle on simultaneously.

What I do like about smart meters with in-house displays is you can see what effect different things have, without having to stick a reader plug on every appliance (which is not really viable for things like washing machines, driers, etc).
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But it's common sense that a kettle uses more leccy than a clock radio. But then again after working with the general public for many years like I did, I realise not many folk have common sense.
 
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