Smashed A Window @ Footy, Where do I stand!

[Desmo]

Another non-payer here. Maybe they should spend more money on higher fencing.

Or you could tell them that if their pitch fee was lower you'd be able to afford training more often resulting in less spooned balls into windows

 

[KaHn]

As with most I would pay, simply because you pay them to use the pitch, if they have not put enough protection around it then that is not your fault.

KaHn

 

[MaxPower]

smashed a double skinned window about (3ft by 2ft) that is situated about 3m's from the pitch.

Make your mind up with your measurements either use imperial or metric

P.S. The court finds you not guilty.

 

[alexakasloth]

How I see it is you don't have to pay for the window, then again if you want to play there again...

 

[Psyk]

Well it was an honest accident. Stuff like that must happen all the time, it's pretty much unavoidable when people are kicking a ball about. Unless you agreed to pay for damages when you paid for the pitch then you shouldn't have to pay it.

 

[Jet]

What? So because I don't have a sign outside my house saying 'please don't kick balls through my windows' if you did I wouldn't have 'a legal leg to stand on'? It's trespass to property as someone earlier up said.

fini

Well first of all, i doubt you operate a football pitch outside your house so obviously a sign isn't needed. It would be criminal damage which this isn't.

And no, it's not a trespass either, he was given a licence to be there.

Like it or not, they're in the wrong it seems.

And i can't believe people think he should pay at all, it's ridiculous. If that were the case you literally couldn't enjoy any sport, constantly hoping you didn't damage something. It would be a joke.

Likewise if you injure someone by accident in a match, good luck in court, you'll need it.

 

[Gilly]

To anyone saying he should pay, if I'm playing tennis and hit a mean cross-court smash that bounces unevenly and bounces over the chicken wire round the court and smashes a window of the tennis club, should I be liable?

No, I should not. They should have seen the eventuality and protected themselves for it.

 

[fini]

And no, it's not a trespass either, he was given a licence to be there.

It's trespass to property not trespass to land - he wasn't given a license to break the window - read my post further up

@Gilly, IMHO you should be liable

I really don't see how, just because it was an accident, you shouldn't have to pay. Say I was playing with you and I accidentaly tackled you too strongly and you broke your leg; you could sue me for damages. Say, in the same tackle the fireworks that I was carrrying are dropped and the lighter in my pocket falls out, accidentally setting them alight, eventually causing a small shed to the right of the pitch to burn down - would I be liable?

fini

 

[Gilly]

Are you smoking crack?

For a start I'd be a member of the club and the club would be fully insured. I'd be paying to use the facilities. Why on earth should I be liable for accidents? Thats exactly why they have insurance!

 

[Jokester]

I really don't see how, just because it was an accident, you shouldn't have to pay. Say I was playing with you and I accidentaly tackled you too strongly and you broke your leg; you could sue me for damages. Say, in the same tackle the fireworks that I was carrrying are dropped and the lighter in my pocket falls out, accidentally setting them alight, eventually causing a small shed to the right of the pitch to burn down - would I be liable?

You wouldn't likely win a case against someone who injured you playing football - IF the tackle was fair. It's a part of any sport that the participant accepts that injury is a possible consequence, you would likely need to prove negligence on the part of the other player.

In my opinion taking fireworks onto a pitch is negligent so you would be liable.

Jokester

 

[pumaz]

It's trespass to property not trespass to land - he wasn't given a license to break the window - read my post further up

@gilly, IMHO you should be liable

I really don't see how, just because it was an accident, you shouldn't have to pay. Say I was playing with you and I accidentaly tackled you too strongly and you broke your leg; you could sue me for damages. Say, in the same tackle the fireworks that I was carrrying are dropped and the lighter in my pocket falls out, accidentally setting them alight, eventually causing a small shed to the right of the pitch to burn down - would I be liable?

fini

My head hurts!

 

[blueboy2001]

If you're playing Golf on a course and someone or something gets damaged, then the player is held liable. This has been tested in court. For this reason some golfers have insurance.

I see no reason why playing football should be any different

Glass, even double glazed units, cost next to nothing. The labour will be far more expensive than the glass, and it certainly won't be worth the club claiming on their insurance.

 

["andy"]

i wouldnt pay either

im sure insurance costs would be included in the booking fees

 

[benjo plz.]

Are you smoking crack?

lol another quality Gilly remark .

 

[Jokester]

If you're playing Golf on a course and someone or something gets damaged, then the player is held liable. This has been tested in court. For this reason some golfers have insurance.

I see no reason why playing football should be any different

Glass, even double glazed units, cost next to nothing. The labour will be far more expensive than the glass, and it certainly won't be worth the club claiming on their insurance.

The difference is, a golf club can't take reasonable precautions to prevent injury and damage to other's property on the course and it's not a contact sport like football.

Jokester

 

[Jet]

It's trespass to property not trespass to land - he wasn't given a license to break the window - read my post further up

fini

Nope, not that either (it's goods btw). He didn't intend to do it and he wasn't negligent. It was part of the game. There simply isn't a law which applies. The only relevance is any contract he entered into.

I really don't see how, just because it was an accident, you shouldn't have to pay. Say I was playing with you and I accidentaly tackled you too strongly and you broke your leg; you could sue me for damages. Say, in the same tackle the fireworks that I was carrrying are dropped and the lighter in my pocket falls out, accidentally setting them alight, eventually causing a small shed to the right of the pitch to burn down - would I be liable?

You cannot sue people for damages in sport provided they stay within the rules of the game, in what way would you be negligent in tackling someone with the ball? It's a part of the game.

Obviously carrying fireworks outside a suitable container is negligent, so yes you would be liable.

If you're playing Golf on a course and someone or something gets damaged, then the player is held liable. This has been tested in court. For this reason some golfers have insurance.

Golfers have insurance to protect them from negligence claims from other golfers and private property. That isn't the case here.

If the golf club decides to stick the bar at the back of the 18th green you couldn't be sued for smashing a window. You will probably have to pay because of the contract with the golf club but not through negligence.

 

[Jamie1984]

I agree with all the non-payers here, so how much are they trying to charge?

 

[VeNT]

the fault lies with you, so you SHOULD pay,
his premium will be effected by claiming

 

[Mattus]

Regardless of the principle, I think you and your mates should pay if only to maintain good relations between yourselves and the sports centre. Split between 16 of you, it'll hardly break the bank.

 

[Gilly]

Put the boot on the other foot.

What would the sports centre do if a car got broken into whilst someone was using their facilities?