Smoke Free Scotland

crashuk said:
Well why didnt they say pubs have a choice to make it smoke free, allow pubs to make up their decision on bans, if one wants to work in a pub its their choice they know people will smoke, he can opt out from working there.
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Did you even read what I said? Perhaps you did though and just didn't think my arguements weren't valid.
 
Jokester said:
I can see the same argument 100 years ago, make mines safer?, those stupid miners know it's dangerous! If they didn't they shouldn't be working here.

I don't know about the US, but in the UK employer's have a duty of care towards their employees. No one should have to be expected to sacrifice their longterm health in their day to day work whether it be second hand smoke or in the more extreme something like asbestos dust or anything else that has the potential to cause harm to health.

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I was actually on the side of the people who said it was stupid for someone to get a job in a pub knowing that they're going to be subject to smoke but you have put a good argument forward.
For many years I was a Union Rep and my main job was to make the workplace safer. Not once did the bosses say that if you don't want to get hurt then don't work here.
One day somebody would have won a case for millions because their employees subjected them to smoke and I suppose this is another way of saving such lawsuits.
 
dmpoole said:
One day somebody would have won a case for millions because their employees subjected them to smoke and I suppose this is another way of saving such lawsuits.
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I'm not sure, as though exposure to smoke might make you ill it's not clear cut that it was the particular cause. Look at Roy Castle, probably got lung cancer from spending a lot of time in clubs. Could anyone prove it beyond reasonable doubt? Probably not. This is the issue that in my opinion is the reason why it's never been dealt with through normal workplace HSE and has ultimately forced the government to step in.

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i have to say i thought work was gonna be hell (i used to be a 30 a day smoker). But having to go outside to smoke is awesome, appart from getting fresh air, it means in the scottish weather you are reluctant to do it, and makes it so much easier to cut down. I've had 10 today and hope to make it even less over the next few weeks.
 
Yawn!




God! how many more flippin times do we have to go through the same old same old?






PS I'd love to be in a Glasgow pub when someone tries to enforce this ....
 
I can honestly say that I didn't cut down at all since the Irish ban. Everyone just sits outside and smokes even more - well you need to compensate for that nasty fresh air :(
 
Blackstar said:
Blah we don't talk like than :mad:
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Get over it. Think about the multiple dodgy english accents, and rest secure in the knowledge that we'll never be as bad as Cockneys/Liverpudlians or multiple other dialects down in the deepest darkest south.
 
Well I'm in Glasgow and both my locals are enforcing it, which was really funny due to the amount of rain we had. There was about half-dozen folk outside huddled together at the entrance and they looked cold, since of course none of them wore a jacket.

No kids running about tonight causing trouble with the place either and that's strange for a Sunday night. Wonder if folks outside the pubs had anything to do with it? :)
 
MATTeL said:
5 minutes to walk to the smoking shelter, 5 minutes to walk back plus 10 minutes to smoke and chat... so they have 20 minute breaks now and you sit in the stuffy office watching them.

I find it hilarious as well, they are getting longer breaks while you sit there picking up extra tasks and feeling smug! :D
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Actualy thats on the Normal breaks they dont get smoking breaks :p

plus they only get 15 mins so they have to be quick. Smug again :D
 
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