'Snooper's Charter' law being rushed through.

mmj_uk said:
If we leave the EU I think I am moving to mainland Europe, there's no telling how far our government will push the "you need to give up this freedom for security" line without the EU courts curtailing them.
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Hopefully leaving soon anyway :D.
 
I wonder if Question Time will be interesting tonight on BBC1 from all this week. From this to "Peadophiles in the House of Commons" investigation and the strike.
 
Depends who is on the panel. From the last few episodes it is pretty obvious nobody with any kind of power is willing to go near that show.

Joey Barton ffs.

e: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b049bj5f

singer-songwriter Ricky Ross, Daily Record columnist and agony aunt Joan Burnie, businessman and chairman of Orion Group Alan Savage, and the Scotland and British Lions rugby player Scott Hastings.
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lol. So no one of any relevance then.
 
Yeah but I mean the kind of reaction and feeling from the people. As most times it's amusing watching the audience clap at everything even from things they disagreed with from the previous speaker.
 
atpbx said:
Nope and nope.

It's like when they kept trotting out the nonsense that Al Qaeda was this massive international terrorist organisation that wants to kill us all.
So we must do this that and the other to "protect us".

Yeah what ever.
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Didn't al Qaeda destroy the twin towers? Or did I imagine that?
 
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Yeah but I mean the kind of reaction and feeling from the people. As most times it's amusing watching the audience clap at everything even from things they disagreed with from the previous speaker.
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They are told to clap, they are told what questions to ask and they are told generally how to behave. That show is as much scripted as the X Factor.
 
I'm rather angry at this. The government is trying to rush through this bill on the basis of sensationalist emotional language.

The EU court ruled the previous bulk collection illegal as it violated privacy. This new bill is no different. Cameron correctly claims that the government should be able to intercept the communications of terrorists and paedophiles but that is completely different to bulk collection which is what this bill is about. Targetted, warranted surveillance is acceptable. Blanket surveillance is a violation of human rights.

Please take a few minutes to write to your MP on this. See here for details: https://www.openrightsgroup.org/campaigns/no-emergency-stop-the-data-retention-stitch-up
 
Hmm can't wait to see how this expands...:rolleyes:

I'm rather bored of this kneejerk "we need this to find pedofiles and terrorists" pushing through these bills to further increase surveillance.

Yet they are still in power. Since when has being free been subjected to "as long as we know exactly what you're doing at all times).
 
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Could the Americans have asked for this? They did with the scanners. This feels like co-conspiracy. There is a master plan for all of this, the tinfoil hat people keep being right and its getting a bit scary
 
One freedom at a time. This isn't even just the Tories it's totally cross party, democracy at its best. We should all just spoil ballots at next election, what's the point
 
According to Nick Robinson, this new UK law has been rushed through as a result of the previous EU directive being struck down by the European Court.

Basically, the UK government have been free to do all this stuff anyway under EU law. Since that EU directive has recently been removed, they need to quickly replace it with a UK specific law to make sure they can legally keep monitoring people in the same way they have in the past.

EU 1-0 UK
 
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