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Surely you will just draw attention to yourself
'Snooper's Charter' law being rushed through.
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Surely you will just draw attention to yourself
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You're forgetting the fact that in an independent UK we can vote out a government that puts security over freedom.
We have very little say in what the EU decides to pass as law over us.
It's like swapping a dictator with democracy on the short-term basis that you agree with the former and dislike the latter.
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Not security. False sense of security.
This whole thing is a load of nonsense.
It's a bit like being in a room, one guy shouts "I'm a terrorist" a police officer hears and arrests you. The thing is no-one is going to shout "I'm a terrorist" if it's all over the media that there are police officers in the room.
No serious attacker will be talking about their plans on the internet. This is why the DMG Media Group had to take drastic measures to create propaganda by attempting to recruit their own terrorist group on ummah.com. Which failed miserably.
You're being fed tonnes and tonnes of propaganda to make you feel happy about giving up every one of your freedoms. It's psychological warfare.
This whole thing is nonsense. The government has been seizing your freedom piece by piece and the rate has increased over the past 3 years. I am truly scared about the imminent future of western citizens and the world.
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Cameron has backing from all the three major parties for this. If any of these parties where in power then the law would remain.
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Why are the government so scared of the British public?
Isnt it just as much mobile metadata more than internet usage?
I can hide my internet usage fairly sufficiently and I already do.
What can I do to hide my mobile location/sms/phone metadata? Cant VPN that afaik.
Are they afraid? They keep pushing legislation that impedes our rights to privacy. They do an awful lot that obviously doesn't benefit us yet push it through anyway. Would suggest they couldn't care less.
I can hide my internet usage fairly sufficiently and I already do.
What can I do to hide my mobile location/sms/phone metadata? Cant VPN that afaik.
Are they afraid? They keep pushing legislation that impedes our rights to privacy. They do an awful lot that obviously doesn't benefit us yet push it through anyway. Would suggest they couldn't care less.
whys privacy so important to people ? unless you are doing something wrong - how could it effect you day to day ? and I guess unless you're flagged for some reason your data will just sit in some pit and never see the light of day
heck my phone now tells me the last 3 places I've parked, guessed where I work, and where I live - now thats scary - but then also quite useful
heck my phone now tells me the last 3 places I've parked, guessed where I work, and where I live - now thats scary - but then also quite useful
You do realise a VPN is the most pointless thing when it comes to hiding from the government?
If you're not behind a proxy, they need many individual court orders for each person they suspect direct from the ISPs.
If you're using a VPN they need one court order and can instantly seize every bit of information contained on every single user, in just ONE order they can seize an entire VPN service and it's user base. All your payment histories, credit cards, logs, encryption keys.
You do realise there is also a chance that the VPN you're using was created by the NSA?
There is also a high chance that the VPN you're using has already been infiltrated by the NSA and is being quietly run by agents as you speak.
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The government are running a global operation codenamed Minerva Initiative. Where you park, where you live, how you interact, is insignificant. But when you know how every single person connected to the internet in any form interacts, behaves in certain situations etc. etc. and this is analysed with billion pound quantum computers, it has potential to be able to do some serious damage.
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gov'ment gorn take our internets, feelin sad.
i doubt we'll end up in a police state because of this, lets face it all the goverment is never going to have entirely enough power over the people. all theyre doing at the minute is annoying minorities, but they cant upset the majority because that never ends well.
i doubt we'll end up in a police state because of this, lets face it all the goverment is never going to have entirely enough power over the people. all theyre doing at the minute is annoying minorities, but they cant upset the majority because that never ends well.
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Thats how every political argument is won, anyone who dares disagree is painted in a negative light. Classic.
Like the Icelandic banking crisis, Gordon Brown used anti-terrorism laws to seize their assets here. Because Iceland is such a hotbed of international terrorism, obviously.
I wonder how long before the government bans these networks under the assumption that anyone that uses them must have something to hide i.e. they must be a terrorist/paedophile/whatever the current bogeyman is
"Won't someone think of
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Vaguely related
In-Q-Tel is a venture capital firm that funds interesting technology for the CIA
These are the firms it invests in.
http://mattermark.com/106-startups-...he-c-i-a-most-frequent-in-q-tel-co-investors/
Going through the list reveals a few things about how it gathers intelligence.
In-Q-Tel is a venture capital firm that funds interesting technology for the CIA
These are the firms it invests in.
http://mattermark.com/106-startups-...he-c-i-a-most-frequent-in-q-tel-co-investors/
Going through the list reveals a few things about how it gathers intelligence.
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I'm surprised people on here of all places are okay with this. This is just the beginning, when this doesn't work, what's next?
They're slowly taking away the free internet from under everyone's feet, and people are allowing it. They've already been blocking sites (Torrent sites and a few others were the first ones targeted), before this, there was a big fuss about that too, now people have just come to accept it like it's fine, yes you can circumvent the whole thing with a VPN, but the fact is it exists.
Now they'll be storing everyone's data, not saying why or what reason for, and there's a big fuss about this now, until the next genius move to take away that bit more of internet freedom, maybe next they'll just grab all the data from your Facebook profile, see who you are, what you do, where you've been so they can make a little profile about you to keep a tab on you and make sure you're being good.
They'll do it in such a way that it gradually builds up but no major leaps where people oppose it massively, so people are being trained to just accept it. Eventually only certain sites will be visible, anything deemed slightly inappropriate by a fat cat in a suit will be blocked (4Chan & Reddit come to mind first), and if they so choose, they'll be able to track your every movement from the profile they've been building up of you, combined with the GPS signal on your phone.
They're slowly taking away the free internet from under everyone's feet, and people are allowing it. They've already been blocking sites (Torrent sites and a few others were the first ones targeted), before this, there was a big fuss about that too, now people have just come to accept it like it's fine, yes you can circumvent the whole thing with a VPN, but the fact is it exists.
Now they'll be storing everyone's data, not saying why or what reason for, and there's a big fuss about this now, until the next genius move to take away that bit more of internet freedom, maybe next they'll just grab all the data from your Facebook profile, see who you are, what you do, where you've been so they can make a little profile about you to keep a tab on you and make sure you're being good.
They'll do it in such a way that it gradually builds up but no major leaps where people oppose it massively, so people are being trained to just accept it. Eventually only certain sites will be visible, anything deemed slightly inappropriate by a fat cat in a suit will be blocked (4Chan & Reddit come to mind first), and if they so choose, they'll be able to track your every movement from the profile they've been building up of you, combined with the GPS signal on your phone.
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Cast your mind 30 years ago, East Berlin. It's a cold December morning... Oh sorry, maybe you weren't born at the time.
So I guess you're OK if your weirdo neighbor, your boss, listens to your phonecalls, read your emails, opens your letters, ect. But it's the government, the common good, right? Trust us, citizen, oh yes... No creeps working for us.
Or do something right. Know what I mean?
Really, that's what you think will be happening? Let all that good datamining go to waste? tsk tsk...
Not just to you, my careless friend!
...What are you, Jesus Christ reincarnated as cattle?
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This is what scares me.
In this link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28237111
Mr Cameron said: "We face real and credible threats to our security from serious and organised crime, from the activity of paedophiles, from the collapse of Syria, the growth of Isis in Iraq and al Shabab in East Africa.
"I am simply not prepared to be a prime minister who has to address the people after a terrorist incident and explain that I could have done more to prevent it."
He added: "I want to be very clear that we are not introducing new powers or capabilities - that is not for this Parliament.
Emphasis mine.
So basically, after 2015, no matter who gets in, more of this.
In this link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28237111
Mr Cameron said: "We face real and credible threats to our security from serious and organised crime, from the activity of paedophiles, from the collapse of Syria, the growth of Isis in Iraq and al Shabab in East Africa.
"I am simply not prepared to be a prime minister who has to address the people after a terrorist incident and explain that I could have done more to prevent it."
He added: "I want to be very clear that we are not introducing new powers or capabilities - that is not for this Parliament.
Emphasis mine.
So basically, after 2015, no matter who gets in, more of this.