So, this post office palaver then

They should be forced to reopen loads of new post offices for all the ones that disappeared in the last 20 years.

the 3 nearest to me all went, It makes me wonder how many disappeared purely because of this scandal
 
Aside from the honours system being an utter joke and highly devalued by the majority of recipients. A few honourable individuals do get them and fair play to the guy who I understand had previously declined a CBE while Vennells' still held hers.
 
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Aside from the honours system being an utter joke and highly devalued by the majority of recipients. A few honourable individuals do get them and fair play to the guy who I understand had previously declined a CBE while Vennells' still held hers.
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Hats off to the man. Who was that then?
 
Richard Christou up today former chief executive and executive chairman of Fujitsu Service is very unlikable to be polite. its the usual not me guv. seems they all have same selective memory about what the remember, hes coming across like everyone is beneath him.
 
I listened to some of today’s evidence but I'm still unclear how in-step or whether any type of collusion took place between POL and FJ.

Outside of the Gareth Jenkins debacle and how, why or who instructed him to act as a witness, expert or otherwise. it appears FJ acted like most corporate entities within a commercial supplier to a customer context. Evidence seems to suggest FJ documented various issues, including the ability for remote access to branch terminals, which was seemingly shared at various points to POL executives.

As a former IT consultant, I do have an inkling of sympathy for Gareth Jenkins, who thus far has been described as highly technical and seemingly an open and transparent individual with whomever he interacted with. I've worked within an environment where highly technical individuals have been approached by commercial or legal teams to provide statements around a tailored technical question and goodness knows where those ended up.

Whether instruction was given to him or not, his evidence next week will be interesting.
 
thats going to be key information, it was in contract that fujitsu employees to prepare witness statements of fact, but Richard Christou seem oblivious, the board didnt know this, though says wasnt raised to the board. smells a bit imo
 
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Yes. I did see that aspect and the contract when it was displayed on screen. Some dancing on the head of a pin with respect to providing "statements of fact" and in what witness context, expert or otherwise, that meant. On the face of it, it seems or appears Gareth Jenkins has been thrown under a bus, whether by himself and / or by others. However, I'd like to understand what, if any, duty of care was provided to him with respect to his involvement in these legal matters. what instruction was given and what his line management knew / approved or otherwise.
 
Sinbad2000 said:
Alan Bates got a knighthood in the birthday honours announced last night.

Well deserved
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Very well deserved. Bates isn't the only person who's been working hard to make the public aware of this absolute shambles, but he does deserve his honour. Didn't he refuse an MBE last year because Vennells still had hers? Now that's been rescinded and Bates has the knighthood; good stuff all round. Just need this kind of rebalancing of karma to carry on.
 
As suspected for those watching the GJ evidence. He's approached "expert witness" purely in the technical sense, which is entirely understandable given he was asked for answers to technical or technically abstract questions. Thus far, He's denied ever seeing or being given direct/indirect instruction on what a legal "expert" is but it is telling he never sought advice or guidance, at least initially from FJ own's legal teams.

I could easily put myself in his shoes and seen everything through the narrow lens of technical responses to technical matters. Not sure if Mr Beer will produce a smoking gun here about instruction but he's repeatedly asking the question which suggests there may be something more to come on this.
 
I could listen to Jason Beer KC all day. Bit embarrassing for him yesterday as he had a frog in his throat and couldn't stop coughing.

Fascinating yesterday when being asked about the post office prosecutor allegedly cajoling him into altering his witness statement.

www.bbc.co.uk

Post Office told Fujitsu engineer to tone down evidence

Gareth Jenkins told the public inquiry he was asked to make his witness statement less emotive.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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