So will the 6 core AMD will outperform i7?

Muel · 10 Mar 2010 at 19:53

MikeHunt79 said:
Surely almost any 6 core will be faster than a 4 core, in a similar way to any 4 core is going to be faster than any 2 core, be it AMD or intel...

Tis all very well have 6 migrant workers instead of 4, but if the 4 migrant workers work faster than the 6, and you can only divide the work up by 4, then the 4 workers will get the work done faster.

EDIT: Maybe migrant workers was a bit too non PC... They do work hard an efficiently though.

rypt · 10 Mar 2010 at 19:54

Martini1991 said:
No it won't be. It'll be basically a 6 core Phenom II.

I expect it to beat an i7 Quad given the fact that it has 2 extra cores

easyrider · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:04

But in games it will make no difference so might as well buy an X2

Well thats what you have all been telling me in that other thread.

Pneumonic · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:08

easyrider said:
But in games it will make no difference so might as well buy an X2

Well thats what you have all been telling me in that other thread.

Yes in games your quite right it will make no difference...

I shall buy one for e-peen

but I reckon at sub £200 (reportedly) its a steal for anyone wanting to do multi-thread work

easyrider · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:10

Pneumonic said:
Yes in games your quite right it will make no difference...

I shall buy one for e-peen

but I reckon at sub £200 (reportedly) its a steal for anyone wanting to do multi-thread work

so 6 cores AMD will be better than 4 cores of i7 with HT making 8 threads running at 4ghz?

Orcvader · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:14

Pneumonic said:
well is some rumour / speculation going around that because the CPU is "power gated" (the technical term for 'turbo' mode) it will also be using something called 'power aware clock grids'.. both were features that were meant to be first seen in the new 32nm Llano (AMD's APU, due for release later this year).. as I understand should mean that these new X6 are very power efficient as the CPU practically shuts down to 1 under-clocked core when grunt isn't required and then provide increased power to individual cores in turbo mode..

I doubt those rumours are true, although it would be interesting if the X6s have this feature. Really, I'm only expecting them to be like the X4s, except with two extra cores.

rypt · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:14

easyrider said:
so 6 cores AMD will be better than 4 cores of i7 with HT making 8 threads running at 4ghz?

HT does NOT make it 8 threads at 4GHz ... HT uses otherwise wasted cycles to run something meaningful (say another thread) - the more optimised the OS and the program, the less help HT is.

easyrider · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:16

rypt said:
HT does NOT make it 8 threads at 4GHz ... HT uses otherwise wasted cycles to run something meaningful (say another thread) - the more optimised the OS and the program, the less help HT is.

answer my question

Pneumonic · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:20

easyrider said:
answer my question

Yes based on current performances of the X4 vs i7, and assuming that the software can use all six cores

easyrider · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:21

Pneumonic said:
Yes based on current performances of the X4 vs i7, and assuming that the software can use all six cores

We'll see

Overkill for most no?

rypt · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:21

easyrider said:
answer my question

Pneumonic said:
Yes based on current performances of the X4 vs i7, and assuming that the software can use all six cores

Indeed, if the software supports use of 6+ threads, and is able to load them properly, then it will be faster than i7 Quad

Pneumonic · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:26

Orcvader said:
I doubt those rumours are true, although it would be interesting if the X6s have this feature. Really, I'm only expecting them to be like the X4s, except with two extra cores.

I think AMD have already confirmed they are power gated?

Interestingly there will be a X4 version "Zosma" , (which may be unlock-able to an X6) of the Thuban X6 CPU rated at 95w TDP if memory serves correctly.

Pneumonic · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:29

easyrider said:
We'll see

Overkill for most no?

If they are sub £200 then that's a lot of bang for buck... i7 is overkill for most but people still buy them

Still a nice little upgrade if you need / want the power and have a AM3 board... for serious overclocking I am guessing you may need 8+2 Phase PWM if you are on a 790FX chipset (I believe most of the Asus / Gigabyte are).. most of the new 890 are 8+2

easyrider · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:31

Pneumonic said:
If they are sub £200 then that's a lot of bang for buck... i7 is overkill for most but people still buy them

Yeah but we just get on with it.

We don't ram it down people throats that they shouldn't buy more power than they need

I guess its ok now cause its an AMD chip

Pneumonic · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:34

easyrider said:
We don't ram it down people throats that they shouldn't buy more power than they need

If I started counting your threads / posts now on this topic in relation to i7 I might be done by April

easyrider · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:35

Will be interesting to see all the hypocrites rear their ugly faces when these are released.

cupofchow · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:38

you two wanna get a room ???

Uriel · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:41

Like anything else - if these are released at the right price they will be worth buying.

Lets face it - if Intel were showing the sort of competition they did in the netburst days these things would cost a fortune. As there'll be some competition, I expect these are going to be relatively affordable.

Pneumonic · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:42

Indeed it can only be good that we have competition, cheaper prices and better CPU which ever side of the fence you fall

gurusan · 10 Mar 2010 at 20:46

Thuban based quad-cores for unlocking