So, you want to keep a pet tarantula?

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Originally posted by Master Skooter
Yeah, get it, get it! :p

Get the other 1 next week :D

[Edit: Nobody answered a previous question i posted.......do/can they fire their hair? Read a few stories in newspapers :rolleyes: about people gettting the hairs fired into their eyes?
Kate's just about covered it. Generally "New World" tarantulas (ones from the Americas) kick hairs as a defence whereas "Old World" ones (from Africa and Asia) will tend to rear up in threat posture first.

Originally posted by At The Gates
Get the Mexican Fireleg.

Do all tarantulas spin webs? What do they use them for? As i take it they all seem to eat crickets and the like which seem to big to get caught in webs.
Tarantulas tend to actively hunt rather than spin webs as a trap, although their web will certainly help trap larger crickets, frogs and lizards (the webs are shockingly tough)

All spiders have the ability to spin webs but not all of them do. My Chile Rose lays a very fine mat of silk, much like a rug on your living room carpet. Baboons will dig tunnels and reinforce them with as much web as they can, and arboreal spiders usually build a funnel like web up in a tree. They are mainly for shelter and protection.
 
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Plenty of time for the substrate to dry to a suitable level before they arrive.

Can't wait to watch these babies hunting....
God I want more now, the idea of a Cobalt Blue spiderling is just so tempting right now.
 
Originally posted by sik
Good luck with it, Lopéz.

I man at work breeds spiders, according to mummy, so...:D. What a coincidence.
If he's a breeder then he should be able to sell you a spiderling for a quid or so.
Most breeders let the 100+ babies eat one another so you get left with 30 or so good strong spiderlings.
 
Originally posted by TonyMontana
Lopiz m8, seeing your tank Im getting ideas since I found the cobalt blue at the size of around 7cm (smaller than the c.rose I got now) for 80euros (around 52pounds) ...it was very active running around in its tank at the shop which is not the case with the c.rose, which is sitting around...

what do you think of the price? should I go for it?
I'd honestly not advise you to go for a Cobalt Blue (H. lividium) for your second spider.

Firstly, they are highly aggressive and will bite if you attempt to put your hand in the tank.

Secondly they are antisocial little burrowers, and will often dig a hole and not come out of it for weeks on end. Many owners rarely see their Cobalt Blues.

If you were going to divide the tank, make sure there are NO gaps and the lid fits tightly, or the Cobalt will work under the gap and kill the Chile Rose within a day. That goes for almost any tarantula.

The price is about right - pet shops sell Cobalt Blues here for about £70, mail order places tend to be more like £40 or £50. Spiderlings are obviously much much cheaper.

Ask the pet shop to demonstrate the aggressive qualities of the Cobalt Blue. This will give you some idea of just how evil this species can be.

If you decide you do want the spider, bear in mind it will need peat as a bedding instead of what you use for the Chile - this species needs to dig a burrow or they will die. So make sure the heat mat (you'll need one, they like it hotter than a Chile Rose) is on the back of the tank not underneath it.
Humidity should also be higher - mist the tank daily and make sure the spider has a water dish.
 
Unfortunately the blue coloration is only visible under strong light.
For instance, my Chile Rose looks a dull brown in normal light, but a flash photograpoh will show the gorgeous iridescant pink colouring on the cephalathorax (its back)

Many of the brightly coloured species are more aggressive.
You can, however, find some very beautiful examples of the more docile species.

The Green Bottle Blue (Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens) is a hardy and generally agreeable spider with awesome colouration.

http://www.donsroom.co.uk/~lopez/Chromatopelmacyaneopubescens

http://www.donsroom.co.uk/~lopez/Chromatopelmacyaneopubescens02
 
Originally posted by Wilf
I don't know how you can want a pet tarantula, I think waking up and seeing it would give me a heart attack. Still each to their own ;)
I don't honestly know why I like tarantulas.
I've always been really interested in insects and other invertebrates. Mammals bore me.

If I woke up and they weren't there I'd have a heart attack - because that would mean they were loose somewhere.....not good.
 
Originally posted by Universal
Have you ever had a bad situation involving Tarantulars? Have any of yours ever escaped?
Left the lid of my Chile once and got distracted.
When I came back hours later she was missing.

A frantic search of low down dark areas foundher nestling under the radiator. I collected her up and plopped her back in the tank.

The Baboons will never get the opportunity to escape, due to their altogether more hostile nature.
 
Originally posted by Wallace
When you expecting your new spiders then Lopez/Lostkat?

(~Yeah I did read the bit that their not strictly spiders, but you know what I mean :))

Be sure to post pics :)
Oh they are spiders in the general sense of the word, just not "true" spiders. ;)

Sure will get some pics (though they won't be amazing quality off my cam)
They should arrive just before tomorrow lunchtime - I then have the unenviable task of getting them out of whatever container they come in and into the tank - a 5 minute spell in the fridge may be needed to calm them down a touch.
 
Well I went out to get some smaller crickets, came back and they haven't done a great deal.

The Golden Starburst is still sitting moodily in the top corner of it's tank.

The Usambara however has webbed itself a little burrow in the bottom corner. Dropped in a cricket very nearly as big as the spider itself...it stumbled into the burrow and WHAM!
The baby T took the thing out in one fell swoop. Something tells me these things are going to be eating a lot more than my Chile Rose ever has....
 
The paler yellow spider in the first shot is the P. murinus (Golden Starburst)

The orange spider in the second and third shots is the P.sp (Usambara Baboon)

The Usambara is now quietly enjoying his meal. :cool:

I've got names lined up, I'll make my final decisions tonight.
 
In Europe and the Americas you get variations on our regular house spider.
They come in 2 forms I'm aware of, T.gigantea and T.agresia
Both are closely related (same genus) as our own common House Spiders.
They are extremely aggressive and will attack and bite furiously without provocation, unlike most tarantulas which in all honestly would rather hide than fight.
The bite is painful, resulting in necrosis of the flesh.
http://www.donsroom.co.uk/~lopez/Hobobite
Nice huh?


Well, Mugabe (the orange one) and Idi Amin (the gold one) have both settled well, though Idi hasn't eaten yet. Perhaps he's on the Slimfast plan.
 
Well, seeing as both spiders hail from Africa, I thought choosing the names of less-than-exempelary African leaders would be appropriate, given their tempers.

Idi just nailed a cricket twice the size of his actual body (legs not included)
He's happily digesting the squishy remains as we speak.


Footnote.

I strongly strongly urge any beginner to NOT choose a Baboon spider as a first pet. Please please please do yourself a favour and get a docile Mexican or Chilean species.

These things are faster than lightning - I'm talking they can run from the bottom of the tank to the top (distance of 25 inches or so) in well under 5 seconds.
That's fast.
Damn fast.

A beginner will end up bitten, or even worse with an escaped spider.
 
No need to be scared.

Just cautious - the same as Yan is when it comes to feeding or cleaning his Goliath and Indian Ornamental spiders. :)

The Giant/Agressive house spiders look exactly like our own, so there isn't really a lot to say about them. There's a good website here

Here's Idi stomping about the tank with his meal firmly wedged in his jaws.

http://www.donsroom.co.uk/~lopez/Murinus02

He just climbed up the glass....his feet are metallic blue underneath!
 
Originally posted by Doobdonk
This is a top thread Mr Lopez!

I read the first five pages on Saturday, took well over an hour with all the info, thought i'd check back to see how the blighters were doing :p

You've actually got me seriously interested. If it wasn't for the fact that i'm unsure of how the missus would view having a tarantula around the place i'd seriously contemplate this.

Have you any advice on owning a tarantula with a very small child around the place? Obviously it's a matter of keeping it out of reach, but i'm not sure it's a risk i could take. I presume any potential bite would be more harmful on a child?
With small children it's honestly probably safer to keep the tank well out of reach, or even better, in something like a lockable cabinet, with sliding glass doors so you can still see the spider. (like you can get for videos, spirits, etc etc.)

You only need to have the tank open once a week for the desert species (food, water, humidification, cleaning the tank) so it isn't the inconvenience youmay at first think.
I can leave the Chile open while cleaning and feeding but she has all the temper of a brick. Inanimate in the extreme.

For the baboons I slide the lid open, insert cricket, slide lid shut and leave it at that. I never ever leave them open and unattended - given the immense speed they move at it isn't worth the risk.

If the worst were to happen and a child were to be bitten, they would suffer similar effects to a wasp or bee sting - pain in the affected limb, swelling etc. Old World (Africa/Asia) tarantulas tend to have more potent venom, another reason to stick to Middle American species like the faithful Brachypelma genus.
Many people report Anti-Hystemene tablets as being an effective remedy for a bite - bear in mind there are ZERO recorded deaths from Tarantulas, and that includes kids, the sick, the elderly....

A New World spider is far more likely to crouch and hide if prodded by inquisitive fingers. Hair kicking may ensue, which can make your eyes swell and itch like crazy for a few hours. But usually you have to really annoy them to do that.
Of course, tarantulas don't read books about themselves - you may end up with an evil ball of hellfire Chile Rose, or a Baboon spider that would rather spend an afternoon mincing about daintily instea of hissing and attacking everything that moves.
You will rapidly "learn" your pet's temperament. :)


Miggyman.....

Fish?!? :confused: :eek: ?!
 
Originally posted by Doobdonk

I have another question. The vibrant colours in some species, are these only to be found on the females of the species, or across gender? Also, regarding the lifespan of a tarantula, with the male having a considerably shorter lifespan, would you perhaps recommend the male to a beginner as 30 years is a potential long commitment to something that you've never delved into before?

Are the males smaller than the females when reaching maturity, as is so often seen in the animal/insect world?
The colours tend to be found in both the males and females - the coloration often differs slightly, but the males are normally equally colourful.

Lifespan - yes, if you weren't totally sure then a male would be a good idea - the problem being that until maturity spiders are very hard to sex....and by that time the poor male probably has only a year left at best. :(

So - best course of action is to buy a spiderlijg, raise it to maturity (anything from 1 to 4 years) and then decide what to do. IF it's a male you can hire him out as a "stud" (no joke) and if it's female you can either keep her, or sell for a tidy sum (£40 or more)

Males tend to be generally scrawnier looking and smaller than females, and often become restless when mature (they spin a "sperm web" and really aren't happy unless being mated out.)
 
I was getting a bit concerned about Mugabe. He was all huddled up in a corner and partially buried under the substrate.
So I took a chopstick and gently prodded his back legs to see if he was even still alive....

Usambara03


Well I knew I could expect aggression from Baboons, but not in ones so young!
I apologise for the poor picture but I think you can make out the nasty orange blob in the centre of the picture.
Raised up on it's hind legs in classic defense posture, you can see the mouthparts (the pale pinky red area) The fangs are over a millimeter thick each (Doesnt sound big? Imagine it being stuck into your hand twice) and around half a centimeter long each. The spider is only3cm long so that should give you an idea of their size relative to the animal.

Put it this way, if this thing bit me it would really hurt.
 
Glad to see people are still reading and enjoying this thread. :)

Since I started it, my collection has trebled in size and Kate has acquired her first tarantula.

Funny thing is, the person who actually asked for this thread was Phoolf....and she hasn't replied to it yet. :D
 
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