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Genuine Q, are FITs payments part of the ‘green levys’ which form part standing charge/unit costs or are they centrally funded?
Solar panels and battery - any real world reccomendations?
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Genuine Q, are FITs payments part of the ‘green levys’ which form part standing charge/unit costs or are they centrally funded?
Soldato
Having just googled it, we all pay it through our energy bills, same way we cover bad debt I believe
www.fitariffs.co.uk
Who pays the FITs? - FI Tarrifs | Feed-In Tariffs
The money doesn’t come from the Government, but from the energy market Who pays my tariffs to me? Although the FITs are established in law, rather than coming from the government, the tariffs are actually paid by the energy suppliers. When you register a system for the fits you nominate which...
www.fitariffs.co.uk
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Who pays the FITs? - FI Tarrifs | Feed-In Tariffs
The money doesn’t come from the Government, but from the energy market Who pays my tariffs to me? Although the FITs are established in law, rather than coming from the government, the tariffs are actually paid by the energy suppliers. When you register a system for the fits you nominate which...
www.fitariffs.co.uk
not sure if that's accurate.
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Cheers mate
My supplier came back and said:
Additional 9.5 battery supplied and commissioned + they will supply the give EV charger £3350 as I'm repeat cx etc..
Think I'm going to book this in, it's a no brainer
I'll keep hold of the charger for now and once it's approved with octo intelligent go I'll get my mate to swap out the ohme
you may need a GE installer to commission it unfortunately. Does the free charger come with installation? If so it may be worth them just installing it and having 2.
Nope
He's checked & confirmed it can be commissioned by yourself, said its a 10 mins process, connecting to wifi and enabling it in the app, I've just checked a vid on YT and you don't need a giv engineer to do it.
Out of interest, I asked if I can have this installed as a second ev charger, it can but it will need approval or something to have a second charger in your home, and may need a fuse uplift. Too much hassle tbh.
I'll keep it till it is approved on IOG or sell it on.
They can install it for £250, my sparky mate will do it for a 12 pack, like he did with the ohme
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Fair enough, that’s good. I was following the logic that all the other GE kit is installer only.Nope
He's checked & confirmed it can be commissioned by yourself, said its a 10 mins process, connecting to wifi and enabling it in the app, I've just checked a vid on YT and you don't need a giv engineer to do it.
Out of interest, I asked if I can have this installed as a second ev charger, it can but it will need approval or something to have a second charger in your home, and may need a fuse uplift. Too much hassle tbh.
I'll keep it till it is approved on IOG or sell it on.
They can install it for £250, my sparky mate will do it for a 12 pack, like he did with the ohme
The DNO approval will be no different to when you got your first charger, you just bung in the form and it’s a formality for the most part. It’s really not a big deal at all and they do it for you if they are installing. The GE charger should have a load management functionality via its CT clamp so there shouldn’t be any main fuse issues.
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Added 4 x 455w panels to the garden array today, hard going on the higher one.
Birds already pooped on it!.
Just need the sun now
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Birds already pooped on it!.
Just need the sun now
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Just been looking into this and it seems from the literature that the T Class Lynx Fuse is M10 only, with the Lynx Shunt only coming in M8 meaning they can't be used together? What would be another way to get the battery monitoring as i do like the T Class. Would i be looking at removing the Lynx Shunt and using something like the SmartShunt's?
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A Lynx distribution system usually consists of a single Lynx Smart BMS module together with a Lynx Class-T Power, Lynx PowerIn or Lynx Distributor. Note that the Lynx Shunt VE.Can is only available with M8 connections and therefore cannot be connecteddirectly to the Lynx Class-T Power, which has M10 connections.Soldato
@Gammawolf I think they can be made to fit together, think you need to drill out the 8mm holes and also possibly space the shunt off the surface. Have a dig around on the DIY solar forum.
Other option, which is not ideal as it introduces more connections is to make up connector cables to go between the two
Other option, which is not ideal as it introduces more connections is to make up connector cables to go between the two
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No, just the AC near the meter. That’s to measure any excess solar.
If your charger supports multiple CT clamps, on the AC cable feeding any battery storage. Some chargers back back off if they see the battery is draining. CT clamps can’t read DC.
If you are using a hybrid inverter, the CT clamp on the solar/battery doesn’t add much value as it can’t tell if it’s excess solar or it’s drawing from the battery.
Edit: to add to the above, you don’t really want to charge the car from solar unless you are on a FIT contract. Sell to the grid for 15p, buy it back overnight for 7p.
If your charger supports multiple CT clamps, on the AC cable feeding any battery storage. Some chargers back back off if they see the battery is draining. CT clamps can’t read DC.
If you are using a hybrid inverter, the CT clamp on the solar/battery doesn’t add much value as it can’t tell if it’s excess solar or it’s drawing from the battery.
Edit: to add to the above, you don’t really want to charge the car from solar unless you are on a FIT contract. Sell to the grid for 15p, buy it back overnight for 7p.
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Quick question,
I let intelligent go do it's thing, Plugged the car in the morning, the smart charging saw a number of slots in the day and charged at those times, however it was taking the charge from the givenergy battery instead of the grid :O
Is there a way to prevent charging the car from the battery altogether, I couldn't see anything in the app or portal
I'm using an ohme charger
Or is it a case of just charge 23:30-05:30 which defeats the intelligent part of the tarrif then
Cheers
I let intelligent go do it's thing, Plugged the car in the morning, the smart charging saw a number of slots in the day and charged at those times, however it was taking the charge from the givenergy battery instead of the grid :O
Is there a way to prevent charging the car from the battery altogether, I couldn't see anything in the app or portal
I'm using an ohme charger
Or is it a case of just charge 23:30-05:30 which defeats the intelligent part of the tarrif then
Cheers
there are two options:
Third party controls for the battery like home assistant. You can use it to ‘watch’ the octopus API and set the battery to charge at the same time as the car for 7p, you then let the solar export for 15p. Profit!
Changes to the way your CTs are set up or how your EV charger is wired into your house. This would make it so the battery can’t ‘see’ the EV charger.
The latter is set and forget but it could cost money if you need to get a spark in.
How is your EV and solar system wired in and where are the CTs located? Pictures would probably help.
Third party controls for the battery like home assistant. You can use it to ‘watch’ the octopus API and set the battery to charge at the same time as the car for 7p, you then let the solar export for 15p. Profit!
Changes to the way your CTs are set up or how your EV charger is wired into your house. This would make it so the battery can’t ‘see’ the EV charger.
The latter is set and forget but it could cost money if you need to get a spark in.
How is your EV and solar system wired in and where are the CTs located? Pictures would probably help.
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We have just recieved this proposal from 'Spectra Solar':
Solar PV System Size: - 8.36kW
Battery Storage Size: - 10.64kWh
Total price for installation: - £12,358.38
Description of Goods Qty Unit Price Total Price
19 X Jinko Tiger Neo 440W N-Type All Black Mono Panels
Price includes all cable & electrical sundries
(25yr Product Warranty- 30yr Linear Power Warranty)
1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Sunsynk 8kW ECCO Hybrid Inverter
(10yr Manufacturer warranty)
1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Emlite NET Gen meter 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
10.64kWh Sunsynk Battery Storage (90% Usable)
(NEW 2024 BATTERY)
(10yr Manufacturer warranty)
1
INCLUDED
INCLUDED
Renusol Roof Mounting Kit 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Wi-Fi Dongle for Cloud Access/Mobile App 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Consumer Unit + SPD 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Bird Protection + Installation 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
7kW MyEnergi Zappi Untethered Charger 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Description of Services Qty Unit Price Total Price
Design, Installation & Setup 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
MCS Cert, DNO(G98/G99), Elec Cert (EIC), HIES Warranty IBG 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Free Site Survey prior to Installation 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Free Online Monitoring 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
24 Months defects “return to site” warranty 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Goods & Services Sub Total: £11,378.38
Scaffolding: £980.00
VAT @ 0%: £0.00
Total: £12,358.38
I have no idea abount any of this, please advise - is it a good price, is it decent equipment.
Should I ask to change anything, add anything or remove anything?
Our average usage per month over the last 7 months is 865kw - the hot tub has been off since January, so that will be going back on again soon (which will increase this usage).
Many thanks
Solar PV System Size: - 8.36kW
Battery Storage Size: - 10.64kWh
Total price for installation: - £12,358.38
Description of Goods Qty Unit Price Total Price
19 X Jinko Tiger Neo 440W N-Type All Black Mono Panels
Price includes all cable & electrical sundries
(25yr Product Warranty- 30yr Linear Power Warranty)
1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Sunsynk 8kW ECCO Hybrid Inverter
(10yr Manufacturer warranty)
1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Emlite NET Gen meter 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
10.64kWh Sunsynk Battery Storage (90% Usable)
(NEW 2024 BATTERY)
(10yr Manufacturer warranty)
1
INCLUDED
INCLUDED
Renusol Roof Mounting Kit 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Wi-Fi Dongle for Cloud Access/Mobile App 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Consumer Unit + SPD 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Bird Protection + Installation 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
7kW MyEnergi Zappi Untethered Charger 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Description of Services Qty Unit Price Total Price
Design, Installation & Setup 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
MCS Cert, DNO(G98/G99), Elec Cert (EIC), HIES Warranty IBG 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Free Site Survey prior to Installation 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Free Online Monitoring 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
24 Months defects “return to site” warranty 1 INCLUDED INCLUDED
Goods & Services Sub Total: £11,378.38
Scaffolding: £980.00
VAT @ 0%: £0.00
Total: £12,358.38
I have no idea abount any of this, please advise - is it a good price, is it decent equipment.
Should I ask to change anything, add anything or remove anything?
Our average usage per month over the last 7 months is 865kw - the hot tub has been off since January, so that will be going back on again soon (which will increase this usage).
Many thanks
Soldato
That's a decent price, even getting a car charger. Scaffold is a bit pricey, but that's all
Soldato
@father-ted top tip, use Notepad++ or something similar, paste the quote and replace all "1 INCLUDED INCLUDED" with "", would make reading it much easier
They get really good reviews on Google, out of 93 reviews only one is one star (just a communication issue), the rest are four or above, Trust Pilot is all five stars, although there are only 9 reviews.
They get really good reviews on Google, out of 93 reviews only one is one star (just a communication issue), the rest are four or above, Trust Pilot is all five stars, although there are only 9 reviews.
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