Soldato
When I took the stock cooler off it left the 4 corners looking a bit damaged if thats what you are talking about.
Try 1.35v with 37 and set cpu fan too 100% and monitor temps.
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SOME RYZEN 7 1700 OVERCLOCKING!
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When I took the stock cooler off it left the 4 corners looking a bit damaged if thats what you are talking about.
Try 1.35v with 37 and set cpu fan too 100% and monitor temps.
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The damage is a little black mark. Looks like a bit of the silver surface has come away. It is tiny tho
Will give it another go later. Thanks for your time and help
Soldato
No problem. Did you notice this before the install?
Sorry to go slightly off topic but since you guys ae talking abour RAM speeds.... how much does it affect gaming? Im still rocking DDR 1600Mhz RAM and reading the last few posts got me thinking how much of a gaming performance increase would DDR3 3200Mhz memory have?
I've stored a Ryzen build in my basket, still don't know if it's worth upgrading from an i7 4790k at stock speeds.
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £505.43
(includes shipping: £10.50)
I've stored a Ryzen build in my basket, still don't know if it's worth upgrading from an i7 4790k at stock speeds.
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 1700 3.70GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £319.99
- 1 x MSI B350 Tomahawk AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £99.95
- 1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Red (CMK8GX4M2B3000C1= £74.99
Total: £505.43
(includes shipping: £10.50)
Soldato
Sorry to go slightly off topic but since you guys ae talking abour RAM speeds.... how much does it affect gaming? Im still rocking DDR 1600Mhz RAM and reading the last few posts got me thinking how much of a gaming performance increase would DDR3 3200Mhz memory have?
I've stored a Ryzen build in my basket, still don't know if it's worth upgrading from an i7 4790k at stock speeds.
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 1700 3.70GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £319.99
- 1 x MSI B350 Tomahawk AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £99.95
- 1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Red (CMK8GX4M2B3000C1= £74.99
Total: £505.43
(includes shipping: £10.50)
Ram speed increases offer significant gains in gaming. As for the 4790k it wouldn't be worth it if all you do is game. I found the stock 1700 to be on par or slightly ahead of my 4770 non k.
Once overclocked the ryzen is faster but not £500+ faster. That money would be better spent on a GPU in my opinion.
Of course if you want the extra cores or a bit of future proofing then ryzen is the way to go at the moment.
Soldato
Ryzen's "infinity" fabric which connects all the cores together runs at half ram speed, so if you have fast memory the cores are connected to each other better. Ram speed REALLY matters with Ryzen, but its also the reason why some chips dont overclock the ram very well because the infinity fabric on some chips doesn't like going near 1600mhz (3200 ram speed).
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Yep i noticed it right away as i had to clean the old thermal paste from the chip
The only way it will overclock is via preset performance mode which gets up to 3750
However never tested long as the temps shot past 80c while encoding video
Soldato
thats because the preset modes were probably pumping 1.4volts through the cpu. Even on water i cant keep the temps down if its at 1.4volts. The difference between [email protected] and [email protected] is almost 20c on my 1700!
Soldato
Yeah past 3.8/3.9 the efficiency goes out of the window. It's just not worth it imo.
@questforquiet you may have a dog of a chip there and may very well have been returned because of this. Did you take pics of it? Just in case you wish to return it.
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Right thanks for the info. Never knew the presets put so much volts through the chip
Bought it through amazon warehouse deals so no problem returning. Their warehouse gear can be hit and miss!
At stock the temps are around 60-62c with the side panel of the case removed. This is encoding video...
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Btw when i applied the thermal paste i did the usual grain of rice
Soldato
Seems about right for a 1700 on stock cooler tbh. Mine under a h100i silent profile at 1.35v sees about that so nothing to be concerned about there.
It might just be a dog for overclocking.
Yeah I have a 360mm AIO and it keeps good control under 1.45v (was testing) at 70c, but the efficiency beyond 3.9 goes out of the window. I have settled for 3.9 but even had a couple of crashes this weekend at 1.4v so may be that 3.85 is about it 
On stock cooler I was just about able to stay under 80c at 3.5/1.25v under prime.
On stock cooler I was just about able to stay under 80c at 3.5/1.25v under prime.
Well, I passed hour of occt, realbench and memtest at 3.95 with 1.4V under load with ram at 3066.
Lightroom crashed a couple of times this morning in quick succession, so dropped to 3.9 and ram to 2933.
Beginning to question the usefulness of stress testing
Lightroom crashed a couple of times this morning in quick succession, so dropped to 3.9 and ram to 2933.
Beginning to question the usefulness of stress testing
Soldato
Well, I passed hour of occt, realbench and memtest at 3.95 with 1.4V under load with ram at 3066.
Lightroom crashed a couple of times this morning in quick succession, so dropped to 3.9 and ram to 2933.
Beginning to question the usefulness of stress testing
Wasn't the old "golden rule" was to find a point where prime was stable then back it off a little?
I'm with you though, my first 1700 passed everything at 3.9 but couldn't handle it daily.
Been fine on 3.8 though
Soldato
Wasn't the old "golden rule" was to find a point where prime was stable then back it off a little?
I'm with you though, my first 1700 passed everything at 3.9 but couldn't handle it daily.
Been fine on 3.8 though
It seems like no every 1700 can handle 3.9, there are instances where they can pass the stress test on 3.9 but spit out WHEA error intermittently, regardless of the BIOS settings.
3.8 however, is the gold standard for 1700 24/7 overclock.
3.8 also seems to be a lot more efficient - voltage (and thus power draw and heat output) jumps a lot beyond this point for minimal return. Actually exactly the same as my old i7-920 - ran happily 24/7 at 3.8 GHz but 4 GHz required stupid voltages so I never bothered.
Soldato
Soldato
Yet 8pack and silicon lottery sell these at 3.9......
Oh I mean 3.8 with the sweet spot 3200c14 RAMs, not 2666 or 3000 @~110 BCLK.
I've never tried running Ryzen under 3200 RAM so I don't really know how well 1700 run with 3200 ram @3.9
Soldato
It doesn't
My first 1700 can't do 3.9 under avx no matter of memory speed. I used the exact bios settings 8pack used as per his thread, he has these set to 1.45v and even then it still crashes under avx loads.