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SOME RYZEN 7 1700 OVERCLOCKING!
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Soldato
I had three originally, but one of them was proper pants, couldn't even get it stable at 3.9GHz on 1.4v! I think a lot of it has to do with the motherboard to be honest, I am so impressed with the Taichi even if it does cost as much as a yacht
When I build one for myself to use from day to day use, I think that will be the board I go for, or maybe the Fatality K4 B350, that's been good too, depends how much I feel like spending.
Soldato
I had three originally, but one of them was proper pants, couldn't even get it stable at 3.9GHz on 1.4v! I think a lot of it has to do with the motherboard to be honest, I am so impressed with the Taichi even if it does cost as much as a yacht
When I build one for myself to use from day to day use, I think that will be the board I go for, or maybe the Fatality K4 B350, that's been good too, depends how much I feel like spending.
I disagree with the motherboard
I'm on a crosshair and I can't get IBT avx stable at 3.9 using 1.45v
The other 1700 I'm at 3.9 with 1.4v
Can't hit that magical 4.0 with sensible volts no matter what settings I've used.
Soldato
Ive been gradually reducing my voltage @ 3.9ghz, now down to 1.325. Yet 4ghz cant post at any voltage. Doh.
Associate
That's what I'm hoping for, don't care about hitting 4, just get the 3.8/3.9 nice and quiet like.
These chips are wierd ey, the LN2 results suggest a lot of headroom at some reasonably low volts but even with low temps on high end water rigs you are really struggling to get it to work at 4.2... my 1800x boots 4.2 no problems but no matter what the volts won't run any tests fully.
Soldato
They certainly are. Just had my second 1700 running at [email protected]. Passed 30 runs of IBT avx on max, 2hours of realbench and overnight with AIDA64.
Had amazon music playing in the background, loaded up hunter:call of the wild and crashed with a code 8.
Then went into a spaz and wouldn't pass post. Cleared CMOS and all is fine, might need to back the frequency down.......
That'll be 2x1700's that are not fully stable at 3.9. Silicon lottery :/
I'm just running 3.8/2666. It's no effort and stable.
I know I can get 4ghz /3ghz stable easily enough, but I just want them to stabilise it all.
Though I did notice some pausing when I did something really simple earlier. It was just something like opening a tab or something and system just halted for fraction of second a few times.
It's just too all over the place to push in any meaningful way and feel secure you won't run into some obscure issues at one point or another.
They really do need to start bringing it in line now.
I know I can get 4ghz /3ghz stable easily enough, but I just want them to stabilise it all.
Though I did notice some pausing when I did something really simple earlier. It was just something like opening a tab or something and system just halted for fraction of second a few times.
It's just too all over the place to push in any meaningful way and feel secure you won't run into some obscure issues at one point or another.
They really do need to start bringing it in line now.
Associate
What voltage you throwing in for 3.8 buddy?
I've noticed that same pause you mentioned, just an occasional hiccup you don't expect from a multi-core processor
It's way higher than it needs to be at 1.35v - I can run 3.95ghz with little more than that.
Couldn't be bothered with the hours of fiddling to find how low I could get it.
Just discovered this weird stutter/pausing i something to do with disk access.
I have the random image screensaver enabled to change image very minute. If I am moving mouse at the time it changes, it exhibits the lag.
Quite poor really. Maybe it's down to bclk adjustment.
I have the random image screensaver enabled to change image very minute. If I am moving mouse at the time it changes, it exhibits the lag.
Quite poor really. Maybe it's down to bclk adjustment.
Soldato
I had this when running benches. Spent hours uninstalling one thing at a time and couldn't find it. Reinstalling windows fixed mine. I think it was the creators update. Now I have the iso with it already in there it has gone away.
Not what you wanted to hear I know but it fixed mine and I was literally down to 1 or 2 games left installed after I removed everything with revo uninstaller.
I think a plus for the 1800x price aside, it's much less effort... certainly seems less random to achieve 4+. I'm still waiting for the May RAM updates so I can join you in the silly fast DDR4 club.
Associate
Just got my Crosshair and 1700 up and running. Updated the bios to 1201 and starting tweaking.
I thought I was in luck as I got 3.9 @ 1.35v and 3200mhz ram( Gskill 3600mhz Trident z) with little effort but to be honest I have done very little stress testing so far other than playing ghost recon for a couple of hours.
The issue I have is it will not boot from cold at 3200mhz. If I go into the bios after you get the failed overclock message and press save then it will boot. 2933mhz ram seems to boot from cold ok. I have set the boot voltage for the ram to 1.4v and then 1.35v normal. manually set the timings and left them on auto but no luck. SOC is at 1.2v
Is this normal and I just have to hope it is resolved with further bios/agesa updates?
I thought I was in luck as I got 3.9 @ 1.35v and 3200mhz ram( Gskill 3600mhz Trident z) with little effort but to be honest I have done very little stress testing so far other than playing ghost recon for a couple of hours.
The issue I have is it will not boot from cold at 3200mhz. If I go into the bios after you get the failed overclock message and press save then it will boot. 2933mhz ram seems to boot from cold ok. I have set the boot voltage for the ram to 1.4v and then 1.35v normal. manually set the timings and left them on auto but no luck. SOC is at 1.2v
Is this normal and I just have to hope it is resolved with further bios/agesa updates?
Soldato
Pretty much yea. We are waiting on Agesa updates.
My installation was a fresh one from iso with creator updates on...
Soldato
It certainly is strange. Almost all cores can do 3.9ghz, but just asking another 100mhz knocks out 99% of the CPU's. Surely it cant be the silicon holding that back, but rather a design issue with timings (like the ram), or power limits at the moment? I have some wishful thinking that a microcode update will fix all ram issues and unlock extra clock headroom. I can dream right?
Soldato
It's almost certainly a physical limitation of the manufacturing process; which is also the reason why required voltage increases exponentially for relatively small increments in frequency once past a certain threshold.
The process used to produce Ryzen is designed for lower frequency, low power draw parts.
This chart shows that Ryzen scales with voltage almost linearly until 3.3GHz; anything past that is pushing the process past optimal efficiency. AMD have pushed the process to the edge already with the stock speeds on their higher end parts (3.6GHz).
Everything past that sees increasingly large voltage increments, and at 3.9 you can see that voltage requirement skyrocket. This is why almost every CPU has some kind of wall at 3.9.
Soldato
In that case I have no idea
I even started running realbench inbetween every driver and application I installed to try to find what the issue was. I couldn't find it hence the reason I thought it was windows....
Soldato
3600mhz was when I saw the best improvements. This broke my firestrike record, however it wasn't stable enough for anything else and booting was very much hit and miss.
What I have learned is making small changes and rebooting into windows makes a massive difference for me. Changing too many values at once gives me a crash just as windows loads.
I'm waiting for 1.0.0.6 before making anymore changes, the process to get it back to where it was is far too time consuming.